[hackerspaces] SpaceFED

Pavol Luptak wilder at trip.sk
Sat Jun 2 23:23:31 CEST 2012


Sometimes it's better to use no encryption at all and have completely open AP:

https://torrentfreak.com/open-wifi-owner-not-liable-for-illegal-file-sharing-court-rules-120515/
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/05/finnish-court-rules-open-wifi-network-owner-not-liable-for-infringement/
http://www.turre.com/2012/05/finnish-court-open-wifi-owner-not-liable-for-file-sharing-copyright-infringement/

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 08:07:30PM +0000, Don Ankney wrote:
>    Remember that WPA2 is not just authZ. It also serves as layer2 isolation.
>    Open or WEP networks leave tenants open to untargeted layer2 attacks
>    (think karmetasploit).
> 
>      ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>    From: Moritz Bartl
>    Sent: 5/28/2012 12:56 PM
>    To: Hackerspaces General Discussion List
>    Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] SpaceFED
> 
>    My thoughts on this?
> 
>    Bullcrap.
> 
>    Hackerspaces should be the front to fight for open wifi access without
>    any specific authentication. I do agree it would be nice if more spaces
>    used a unified passphrase, but then again different networks serve as a
>    reminder that, err, yeah, you're on different networks with different
>    ownership relations and (potentially) different usage policies. It might
>    not be the intention of its founders (and even participants), but
>    spaceFED scares me, because it screams authentication in pair with
>    membership, strange access rules, etc etc
> 
>    A different but related, way more interesting project for me would be a
>    non-profit hackerspace VPN provider that hackerspaces (and mesh networks
>    like Freifunk, FNF, Guifi etc) can tune into, especially to cope with
>    local abuse (and strange country geoIP fuckups). I say this as a VPN
>    provider of some sort - we run some number of Tor exits as Torservers.net.
> 
>    On 28.05.2012 11:02, Mark van Cuijk wrote:
>    > Hi guys,
>    >
>    > A couple of months back I learned about the SpaceFED project. One of the
>    > goals of the project is to build a federated Wi-Fi authentication
>    > network for hackerspaces. It the time, I liked the idea, but since only
>    > two hackerspaces were working on it, I left it for what it was.
>    >
>    > When I was traveling Europe this month, I've visited a couple of
>    > hackerspaces and noticed each of them has a wireless network, but
>    > authentication is not consistent across them. One hackerspace had a nice
>    > QR-code on the wall containing SSID and WPA key, others required some
>    > manual configuration.
>    >
>    > Anyway, this reminded me about the SpaceFED network and it seems a
>    > couple more hackerspaces are connected now. Although not published in
>    > their wiki yet, I heard spaces from four different countries are
>    > involved already.
>    >
>    > I'd like to think that the project already is successful, since it's
>    > being used for months already and hackers benefit from it. However, we
>    > could all take more advantage from this project if more hackerspaces
>    > would participate. Therefore, I'd like to invite you to check out the
>    > project wiki at https://spacefed.net/wiki/index.php/Spacenet
>    >
>    > Regards,
>    > Mark
>    >
>    > PS. full disclosure: I'm not involved with the project, but I do know
>    > the guys who started it
>    >
>    >
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