[hackerspaces] Do-ocracy at 140 members?

[quemener.yves at free.fr]

Also called a fork. I think it keep happening everywhere...

One is in progress (I think ?) here in Lyon along the lines between
hackerspace and fablab. We already have a smallish place, we do small
electronics and programming in it. It is low-cost and small project.
Some people want to do bigger mechanics with bigger machine tool and
were ready to pay more money to make this happen. We saw that while 
the intersection was not null, the populations interested were not the 
same for both projects. So the fablab will open soon in another place 
in town. We'll try to not overlap our events so that people can 
participate in both.



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> De: "Christopher Cprek" <c at psioniclabs.com>
> À: "Hackerspaces General Discussion List" <discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org>
> Envoyé: Jeudi 12 Juillet 2012 19:23:00
> Objet: Re: [hackerspaces] Do-ocracy at 140 members?
> 
> 
> The idea of mitosis is interesting.
> 
> 
> Are there any examples of a hackerspace enacting an amicable split in
> the same region? Maybe even going as far as seeding equipment
> resources and start-up funds to a portion of their membership to
> jumpstart a new space?
> 
> Seems like there's some possible benefits to a mitosis concept.
> Scaling down both spaces to more manageable limits of do-ocracy.
> Increase overall participation in hackerspaces by spreading
> geographic access.. And not have all your hackers in one basket, as
> it were.
> 
> I'm curious if this has happened before.
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:58 AM, < quemener.yves at free.fr > wrote:
> 
> 
> I thought that the main idea behind do-ocracy is that people who
> "do",
> have the power. Protest is cheap, action is what is favored. So
> people
> who are ready to paint the bikeshed get to choose the color.
> 
> do-ocracy != democracy. Ask for forgiveness rather than permission
> and
> in case of dissent, always consider forking.
> 
> A place with 140 hackers is awesome, but if you feel like it is
> getting
> hard to get anything done, maybe it is time for a mitosis...
> 
> ----- Mail original -----
> > De: "Tim Saylor" < tim.saylor at gmail.com >
> > À: "Hackerspaces General Discussion List" <
> > discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org >
> > Envoyé: Jeudi 12 Juillet 2012 17:23:22
> > Objet: [hackerspaces] Do-ocracy at 140 members?
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > At Pumping Station: One we've used do-ocracy to get things done
> > since
> > day one. However, at 140 members I wonder if the system breaks
> > down.
> > It's not practical to "ask around" and see if anyone minds if the
> > bikeshed is painted pink. Someone's going to oppose almost anything
> > you want to do, and more people want to ask questions and bounce
> > the
> > issue between themselves with not much productive output. And if
> > we're talking about an action that's not reversible, like getting
> > rid of "useless junk" that someone else thinks is very valuable, it
> > can really blow up.
> > 
> > 
> > Does anyone else have experience using do-ocracy at a large scale,
> > and how has it worked out for you?
> > 
> > 
> > --
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> > http://www.timsaylor.com/
> > 
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