[hackerspaces] [Noisebridge-discuss] Sister city hackerspaces

Frantisek Apfelbeck algoldor at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 29 11:02:02 CEST 2012

To: Josh Williams <joshdont at gmail.com> 

Cc: Bassam Jalgha <bassam507681 at gmail.com>; Noisebridge <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>; ""bg at bilalghalib.com"" <bg at bilalghalib.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] [hackerspaces] Sister city hackerspaces

Just quick note, actually two :-)

One reason why I would be glad to help with coupling of kind of well established hyperspace with some emerging ones, especially in localities which have some serious troubles like not enough food, diseases, not enough resources in general is that the hacker space in such locality could give to the well established partner idea what is needed and the contra part would have the advantage of working on something what has really sense and you can actually quite pretty quickly see the practical results. This based on open source, community collaboration, supported for example by kick starters, microcrediting, that I see as a way to go. Please do not get me wrong, I do like playing with things just for fun and I think that it is crucial to keep doing that, on the other hand helping for example to develop solar lanterns which can be used after some disasters, or alternative low cost water purification systems sounds very attractive to me good too :-)

Concerning the streaming between hackerspaces, I would be careful there. I'm supporter of interconnecting hackerspaces and movement as much as possible, having for  example some cool specifically looking "dedicated" machine at each hackerspace for communication of whatever type (audio, video), would be great (especially if we consider the upcoming satellite communication system which has to be coordinated somehow from various hackerspaces, right?). However I have seen some quite strong opposition of "cameras in the place" for example at Noisebridge. And in a way, I see the reason why to be careful there.

Anyway, I will keep my eyes on the discussion, it is an interesting topic and I will thing about how to realize it, but just a bit now I'm crazily busy.

Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck

biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker


"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Ghandi

 From: Josh Williams <joshdont at gmail.com>
To: Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Hackerspaces General Discussion List <discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org>; Noisebridge <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>; "bg at bilalghalib.com" <bg at bilalghalib.com>; Bassam Jalgha <bassam507681 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Sister city hackerspaces

This would be so beautiful. Frantisek's comment is great, coupling established with the emerging would (I think) help both spaces.  (Established can help point people in the right direction, emerging can help keep new ideas flowing)

I don't know how beneficial it would be, and bandwidth can certainly be an issue, but I like the idea of having a real time video feed from one point to another. Even if not 24/7, perhaps during established times.'

Being able to connect two or three hackerspaces together seems more likely to foster a closer relationship than trying to mash all of them together at once, I just wish we could exchange food easily : )

 - Josh W.
 - All Hands Active

On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi to all,
>Sounds as a good idea to me. I wonder if there would be a tendency to couple "well established" hackerspaces with the "emerging ones" - like in countries where the hackermovement is kind of "officially" taking off - parts of South America, Afrika for example (I know that some of these places has a cool hackerspaces already but in general).
>I wonder what the Noiseibridgers think about that? (if we do not have sister hackerspace already :-))
>Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker
>"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Ghandi
> From: Bilal Ghalib <bg at bilalghalib.com>
>To: Hackerspaces General Discussion List <discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org>; Bassam Jalgha <bassam507681 at gmail.com>; Josh Williams <joshdont at gmail.com> 
>Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 3:45 AM
>Subject: [hackerspaces] Sister city hackerspaces
>Hello beautiful people!
>Do you feel that interhackerspace dialog could be better? Tighter,
>more networked? I do too! What if there was a sister hackerspace
>exchange. The benefits of such a program would be:
>1) People can develop stronger relationships with one other
>hackerspace, compared to ALLL THE HACKERSPACES
>2) Sister Membership could lead to more hackerspace visitation
>3) The difficulties of generalizing and sharing strategy for structure
>and process can be eased
>4) Hackerspaces are personal spaces, data is great, but we connect in
>our spaces better than online. This will help us love one another.
>5) Projects can be collaborated on
>Here I humbly propose the first sister spaces:
>Beiruts hackerspace facilitated by Bassam (cced)
>Ann Arbor's hackerspace facilitated by Josh Williams (cced)
>Discuss mailing list
>Discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org

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