[hackerspaces] Out with the "hackers"... In with the "makers" and the "fixers"

Frantisek Apfelbeck algoldor at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 29 12:07:14 CET 2011

I find your response a bit offending and quite out of place, especially after living in Central America and Mexico + being in touch a lot with South America. So Pasky's questions who you mean is absolutely correct. If you mean United States Citizens and you talk on international forum of "very open people" you should use another term than Americans, clarifying that you do talk just and only about US movement or you do, depends what you mean. It is actually quite annoying for people from Central and South America when they have to deal with people from US who are just one of the many nations of Americas, however nearly completely ignorant of that fact in majority. Thanks to the fact that I lived in San Francisco and California I do realize that many thinks in US and many people there are great but sometimes they are as former super power bit ignorant of others (like British, French etc.).

So in conclusion, your terminology is correct just for US culture and should not make it to the international forum because it is inaccurate and offending. Clear?



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Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Out with the "hackers"... In with the "makers" and the "fixers"
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Petr Baudis <pasky at ucw.cz> wrote:
> And in a
> public radio interview, the moderator spent two minutes explaining what
> does "hacker" (not) mean (for us), ain't that great?

Actually, no.  It would be better not to be burdened with this
negativity that mandates such an explanation.

>> Like it or not, the American public "knows" that ...
>  Why would American public matter particularly?
>  (Please note that this is an international movement and international
> mailing list. If you have some US-specific concerns, please mark them
> clearly so, possibly explaining why they are US-specific if that is not
> self-explanatory.)

I used the term "American" three times in my posting.  Did you somehow
not get the message that I was speaking of America?  Need I somehow
further clarify that for you?
Or is it somehow inappropriate to be speaking of an American concern?
Is there some reason that you would think that the people of America
(another way of saying "American public") are of no concern here?
Must all postings ONLY address concerns of international import?

If this terminology is not an issue in the Czech Republic, you are
free to employ the delete key.
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