[hackerspaces] Out with the "hackers"... In with the "makers" and the "fixers"

Will Bradley will at heatsynclabs.org
Mon Nov 28 01:35:44 CET 2011

Remember that you're emailing the hackerspaces.org email list saying "out
with the 'hackers'."

Most of us seem to cordially agree that you're free to call your own space
whatever you want, and that the word hacker can be an interesting
opportunity for a discussion with the public that you can choose or not
choose to have. As you said, the important thing is that people become

That's a pretty big concession from an international movement. Arguing past
that point especially in this venue could descend into a bunch of trolling.
Hacker ethics come from the earliest origins of computing and automation,
from the Apple I and UNIVAC to MIT model railroading and ARPAnet; if you
disagree with them, you're free to adopt a different ethic. Hackerspaces,
coworking spaces, and schools are quite different in their ethics, but all
valuable in some way.
On Nov 27, 2011 4:54 PM, "B F" <bakmthiscl at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Serendipity Seraph <sseraph at me.com>
> wrote:
> > Pardon my saying so but this is the statement of a mindless dweeb or
> rather paranoid individual.
> Ah!  Life is so simple when we can characterize all our detractors as
> "mindless dweebs."  But why stop there?  Why not demonize them
> completely so we can just exterminate them like vermin?
> > Then tell them differently and do not let the media run your life and
> decisions.  I don't want to be associated with a group that would bow to
> media generated bullshit.
> Life is too short and the media have the money and the stage -- I
> don't.  If you guys want to tilt at windmills to preserve your
> precious "counterculture", then feel free.  I won't be guarding your
> flanks.
> I see the importance of the makerspace movement not as a
> counterculture -- which I can live without -- but as a means of
> educating people in their own capabilities.  That's where I plan to
> direct my energies.
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