[hackerspaces] Open letter to Anonymous (please distribute)

astera astera at hackerspaces.org
Sun Jun 5 19:06:42 CEST 2011

Dear Matt, all,

I didn't know Jaromil's mom was part of the hackerspace movement now,
too? Cool! Anyways.

While this is an open, completely unmoderated list (and always will be),
I'd strongly urge you and everyone on the list to meet others here in a
respectful, non-flammable way.

Apparently, the difference between agreement and respect is not so
obvious to everyone here, so let me recap this just briefly for you guys:
It is not expected from anyone on this list to agree with opinions,
ideas or statements posted by anyone else on this list _at all_; quite
to the contrary! However, I'd encourage everyone to try a little harder
_respecting_ other fellow list members' standpoints and addressing them
in a factual, constructive (rather than the '+1 your mom') way.
We all wanna hear feedback on what we do or say. But presumably the
constructive kind of feedback, that helps us in getting on with what
we're excited about.

Just sayin.

On 6/5/11 12:09 AM, Matt Joyce wrote:
> Dear crazy person,
>    Asking the internet at large or in this case a stand alone complex to
> adhere to your own personal form of morality is both ineffectual in method
> and ill conceived in purpose.  Fuck your desire for a better name for
> hackers.  People are what they are and we should all just learn to accept
> that.  Hackers are people.  Just like people they can be as horrible as the
> smell that emanates from bad chinese food and as wonderful as two girls at
> the same time.   Suggesting that people should try to artificially promote a
> false outward view is to promote deception.  And deception is the road to
> ruin.  I personally abhor your request and will today go out and do
> something horrible to someone in the name of hackers everywhere just to
> stand upon my point with full and honest conviction.
>    Hackers are all we can be.  Don't expect more.  Don't expect less.  And
> don't expect us.
> Additionally,
>   Your mom.
> Love and Peace,
>     Matt
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Jaromil <jaromil at dyne.org> wrote:
>>        please distribute to anyone interested
>> in reply to
>>  http://www.nato-pa.int/default.asp?SHORTCUT=2443
>> and to
>>  LulzSec versus FBI (we challenge you, NATO!)
>>  http://pastebin.com/MQG0a130
>> re all
>> We all know that cyberspace has come to an intense moment of
>> confrontation; it will become more and more difficult to focus on the
>> very reasons of the conflict opening, as the fog of war is
>> rising. This Open letter is an effort to focus on what is happening.
>> Hackers: behind all our actions there is a pulsating will to make
>> justice and to protect our freedoms. Fighting injustice has long moved
>> the hearts and souls of many people in history.
>> Meanwhile, the state of asymmetric cyber warfare in 2011 is
>> paradoxical: national defense departments against kids in their
>> bedrooms, an exaggeration depicting well the deep necessity of reform
>> faced by all forms of organized intelligence that existed before the
>> proliferation of digital networks; namely the most populous one, the
>> Internet, now 18 years old.
>> As usual, the reasons why members of an organization like NATO are
>> moved to fight are related to territorial control and predominance;
>> likewise, the reasons moving the legions of Anonymous are in their
>> deepest sense, and behind the lulz, a political stance supported by
>> natives and, as such, have a huge constituent potential.
>> The reasons that invigorate today the courage of the Legions of
>> Anonymous are also very similar to the political reasons that made the
>> Legion of Underground declare war to Iraq and China in 1999:
>> the reiterated threats to the freedom of the population;
>> the state's efforts to censor, monitor and manipulate the natural flow
>> of information;
>> the lies that monopolies, corporations and governments use to hide
>> failures in the eyes of their citizens and clients;
>> the resistance of nations to move out of obsolete forms of governance
>> engulfed by media-dictatorships;
>> the oppression against investigative journalists, hackers and such
>> liminal figures operating on the edges of semiospheres;
>> to name just a few.
>> Since this scenario is not new, please consider the war that might be
>> profiling ahead by reading further the statement below.
>> Solid.
>> COW,
>> Date: 7.1.1999
>> An international coalition of hackers strongly condemns the Legion of
>> the Underground's (LoU) recent "declaration of war" against the
>> governments of Iraq and the People's Republic of China. Citing human
>> rights violations and other repressive measures the LoU declared their
>> intention to disrupt and disable Internet infrastructures in Iraq and
>> China. In a decision that was more rash than wise, the LoU will do
>> little to alter existing conditions and much to endanger the rights of
>> hackers around the world.
>> We - the undersigned - strongly oppose any attempt to use the power of
>> hacking to threaten or destroy the information infrastructure of a
>> country, for any reason. Declaring "war" against a country is the most
>> irresponsible thing a hacker group could do. This has nothing to do
>> with hacktivism or hacker ethics and is nothing a hacker could be
>> proud of.
>> Frank Rieger of the CCC said, "Many hacker groups don't have a problem
>> with Web hacks that raise public awareness about human rights
>> violations. But we are very sensitive to people damaging networks and
>> critical systems in repressive regimes or anywhere else.  The police
>> and intelligence communities regard hacking as seditious. It is quite
>> possible now that hackers - not only in totalitarian states - could be
>> jailed or executed as 'cyberterrorists' for the slightest infraction
>> of the law."
>> "It is shortsighted and potentially counterproductive," added Reid
>> Fleming of the cDc. "One cannot legitimately hope to improve a
>> nation's free access to information by working to disable its data
>> networks."
>> "Though we may agree with LoU that the atrocities in China and Iraq
>> have got to stop, we do not agree with the methods they are
>> advocating," said Space Rogue of the L0pht.
>> Emmanuel Goldstein of 2600 said: "This kind of threat, even if made
>> idly, can only serve to further alienate hackers from mainstream
>> society and help to spread the misperceptions we're constantly
>> battling. And what happens when someone in another country decides
>> that the United States needs to be punished for its human rights
>> record? This is one door that will be very hard to close if we allow
>> it to be opened."
>> Governments worldwide are seeking to establish cyberspace as a new
>> battleground for their artificial conflicts. The LoU has inadvertently
>> legitimized this alarmist propoganda. With its dramatic announcement
>> the LoU played into the hands of policy makers who want complete
>> control over the Internet and are looking for reasons to seize it. If
>> hackers solicit recognition as paramilitary factions then hacking in
>> general will be seen as an act of war. Ergo, hackers will be viewed as
>> legitimate targets of warring states.
>> Strategic combat planning in the United States and among other nations
>> has reached the point where real-world cases are needed to justify
>> assigned budgets. The LoU is providing this real-world case now. We
>> believe that the LoU should carefully investigate the idea of
>> declaring "war" against China and Iraq.  Was it planted with them by
>> someone with different interests in mind other than advancing human
>> rights considerations?
>> The signatories to this statement are asking hackers to reject all
>> actions that seek to damage the information infrastructure of any
>> country. DO NOT support any acts of "Cyberwar." Keep the networks of
>> communication alive. They are the nervous system for human progress.
>> --
>> jaromil,  dyne.org developer,  http://jaromil.dyne.org
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