[hackerspaces] Open letter to Anonymous (please distribute)

Yves Quemener quemener.yves at free.fr
Sun Jun 5 15:36:14 CEST 2011

When talking about people who do nothing concrete I was not talking about
you Jaromil, but about the kind of people you have probably met, who have
grand ideas about revolutions, about what should be done, about how society
should be, but do nothing to bring it except talk about it, preferably
while smoking pot and drinking beers. I have met my share and understand
why many people here would prefer to avoid any subject where they could
jump in and call everyone idiots because we disagree with Ayn Rand.

Understand that many people come here to take a break from politics. Yes,
like a lot of activities, hackerspaces have a political existence and
significance, but sometime, tech guys just want to have a place where they
can meet, leaving the political noise outside, and just wonder if they can
fit a CNC logic on 32K of RAM or if they can build a high quality radio-ham
antenna from kitchen appliance.

I really miss a place to discuss political issues with tech-minded persons
but I surely do not wish to pollute this ML with this kind of subject.

On 06/05/2011 02:56 PM, Jaromil wrote:
> sure, you can go ahead and say i'm doing nothing concrete, i really
> don't need to be cheered up here about what i achieve.
> yet as a personal exercise, and since i love playing chess, i just
> think about the consequences of everything i'm doing all the time and
> on a long term. not to fear what i'm doing, but to assess a strategy
> that leads to victory.
> if you call that politics well go ahead, i have no problem with
> that. yet i call that intelligence, but i also believe that
> *everything* has a political meaning, so really no prob, light me up
> and see what comes out. but for sure i'm not going to join YAML for
> that.
> here we should be discussing the issues that touch many people
> accessing hackerspaces today, and what i'm mentioning are news we get
> all excited about, and a snowball is rolling.
> regarding the method i really don't see where in that open letter is
> the patronizing bit people is revolting about, since it reports an
> historical account, drawing an analogy and inviting to consider it.
> i'm just saying: here, that's history, and i do it in solidarity with
> most instances of the current struggle, i guess is clear enough.
> i never said what Anonymous *should* do, far from that, i might be
> crazy but i'm not a fool; but now i think some people here is just
> romantically looking forward to a crackdown, especially those that
> will get contracted: they have wet dreams about the movie-like
> situation when they get offered a job by the feds or rot in jail.  i
> see a few other reasons, mostly related to pubescence, why to shoot
> the first messenger that raises the issue openly, to avoid any
> possible discussion about it.
> ciao
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