[hackerspaces] Element 14 messed up Great Global Hackerspace Challenge (fwd)

Matt Joyce matt at nycresistor.com
Thu Aug 25 01:25:03 CEST 2011

Jerry, trying as it may be, lease comport yourself with a greater degree of
grace.  I mean by all means be aggressive to your hearts content in your own
time, but when acting as a self appointed agent provacateur of hackerspaces
you composure is representative of us all.

On Aug 24, 2011 3:56 PM, "Jerry Isdale" <isdale at gmail.com> wrote:
> "Working hard"?
> Did you not talk to Agent SilverFox?
> Do you not look at your own web site for list of spaces involved?
> When we signed up, we were asked to give contact information, and sign up
for E14 accounts on which to document our projects.
> All of us have repeatedly given this information to ASF via the mail list
and direct email.
> Surely sometime in the last 3-6 months this information made its way to
Element 14.
> Patience nearly exhausted.
> Jerry Isdale
> http://MauiMakers.com
> http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/
> On Aug 24, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Deitch, Sabrina R wrote:
>> Hi- We really appreciate all the amazing and hard work the teams did for
>> the Great Global Hackerspace challenge. element14 is working hard to
>> get each and every hackerspace the prizes they have been promised. I
>> have asked for a list of each team and what they have received and what
>> would be missing. Each supplier that donated prizes has been sending
>> them directly- so if I can get a clear understanding of who is missing
>> what- I am happy to take care of it. For each of the participating
>> teams, please don't hesitate to contact me directly and let me know what
>> prizes you are still waiting to receive.
>> Appreciate your patience as we get this all resolved.
>> Sabrina Deitch
>> Sr. Brand Marketing Manager
>> Newark /element14
>> sdeitch at newark.com
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Jerry Isdale <isdale at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Well it looks like closing of one sad act in Hackerspace challenges.
>>> The Great Global Hackerspace Challenge was judged back in May, yet
>>> most spaces that participated, including winners, have yet to receive
>>> most of the promised rewards. The $$, 5' of solder wick and Lead
>>> Cutter came thru (for most spaces), almost all the other 'rewards' are
>>> still AWOL. Some spaces have reported receiving a soldering station.
>>> The Eagle CAD folks seem to be inching closer to getting license(s) to
>>> participants (thanks Psy Tek and Ed). but just about every thing else
>> seems to be BS.
>>> Today, AgentSilverFox, the company who tried to manage the event, are
>>> severing relations with Element 14 - except through lawyers.
>>> It is really sad that Element 14 has chosen to screw us over. In the
>>> process they have screwed up the potential for future sponsors. How
>>> many spaces are going to be willing to participate if the sponsors are
>>> going to take the publicity and run?
>>> I feel sorry for Mitch Altman, who lent his good name, face and
>>> promotional talents to the event.
>>> I, for one, will no longer be watching anything from Ben Heck, Jeri
>>> Ellsworth or other 'hackers' who remain associated with Element 14.
>>> Sorry folks but you are tainted by continued association.
>>> Jerry Isdale
>>> http://MauiMakers.com
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> *From: *Mark Sanders <mark.sanders at agentsilverfox.com>
>>> *Date: *August 24, 2011 10:14:48 AM HST
>>> *To: *hackerspacechallenge at agentsilverfox.com
>>> *Subject: **[GGHC] Closing the Great Global Hackerspace Challenge*
>>> *Reply-To: *hackerspacechallenge at agentsilverfox.com
>>> Hi there,
>>> I've been putting off sending this email. We haven't been able to
>>> secure the products from our client element14 that were promised to
>>> you. Silverfox, the company that organized the Great Global
>>> Hackerspace Competition, will no longer be working with element14. The
>>> nature of the business relationship and the contracts between our two
>>> companies have not been respected and we have no choice but to part
>>> ways. I won't go into detail but our legal council has advised us that
>> we are obliged to shut down this mailing list.
>>> Even at this late stage I honestly thought that we could find a way to
>>> make good on this situation but unfortunately the practicalities
>>> didn't allow it. You all worked tremendously hard and your enthusiasm
>>> for this project was truly outstanding. We are personally working on
>>> alternate arrangements to provide the products that were committed to
>>> you. We can't make any immediate commitments but I look forward to
>>> following up with you all when we have a solution in place.
>>> My direct email is mark.sanders at agentsilverfox.com.
>>> Our client at element14 is Sabrina Deitch,
>>> Sr. Brand Marketing Manager****
>>> Newark & element14****
>>> sdeitch at newark.com,
>>> T: 773 907 5616
>>> MARK SANDERS | SILVERFOX | o 415.701.1701 c:408.728.4674
>>> twitter.com/agentsilverfox
>>> facebook.com/culturewins
>>> culturewins.com
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