<p>Jerry, trying as it may be, lease comport yourself with a greater degree of grace. I mean by all means be aggressive to your hearts content in your own time, but when acting as a self appointed agent provacateur of hackerspaces you composure is representative of us all.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
Matt</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 24, 2011 3:56 PM, "Jerry Isdale" <<a href="mailto:isdale@gmail.com">isdale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> "Working hard"?<br>> Did you not talk to Agent SilverFox?<br>
> Do you not look at your own web site for list of spaces involved?<br>> When we signed up, we were asked to give contact information, and sign up for E14 accounts on which to document our projects.<br>> All of us have repeatedly given this information to ASF via the mail list and direct email.<br>
> Surely sometime in the last 3-6 months this information made its way to Element 14.<br>> <br>> Patience nearly exhausted.<br>> <br>> Jerry Isdale<br>> <a href="http://MauiMakers.com">http://MauiMakers.com</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/">http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/</a><br>> <br>> On Aug 24, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Deitch, Sabrina R wrote:<br>> <br>>> Hi- We really appreciate all the amazing and hard work the teams did for<br>
>> the Great Global Hackerspace challenge. element14 is working hard to<br>>> get each and every hackerspace the prizes they have been promised. I<br>>> have asked for a list of each team and what they have received and what<br>
>> would be missing. Each supplier that donated prizes has been sending<br>>> them directly- so if I can get a clear understanding of who is missing<br>>> what- I am happy to take care of it. For each of the participating<br>
>> teams, please don't hesitate to contact me directly and let me know what<br>>> prizes you are still waiting to receive. <br>>> <br>>> Appreciate your patience as we get this all resolved.<br>
>> <br>>> Sabrina Deitch<br>>> Sr. Brand Marketing Manager<br>>> Newark /element14<br>>> <a href="mailto:sdeitch@newark.com">sdeitch@newark.com</a><br>>> <br>>> <br>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Jerry Isdale <<a href="mailto:isdale@gmail.com">isdale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>>>> Well it looks like closing of one sad act in Hackerspace challenges.<br>>>> The Great Global Hackerspace Challenge was judged back in May, yet <br>>>> most spaces that participated, including winners, have yet to receive <br>
>>> most of the promised rewards. The $$, 5' of solder wick and Lead <br>>>> Cutter came thru (for most spaces), almost all the other 'rewards' are<br>>> <br>>>> still AWOL. Some spaces have reported receiving a soldering station. <br>
>>> The Eagle CAD folks seem to be inching closer to getting license(s) to<br>>> <br>>>> participants (thanks Psy Tek and Ed). but just about every thing else<br>>> seems to be BS.<br>>>> <br>
>>> Today, AgentSilverFox, the company who tried to manage the event, are <br>>>> severing relations with Element 14 - except through lawyers.<br>>>> <br>>>> It is really sad that Element 14 has chosen to screw us over. In the <br>
>>> process they have screwed up the potential for future sponsors. How <br>>>> many spaces are going to be willing to participate if the sponsors are<br>>> <br>>>> going to take the publicity and run?<br>
>>> <br>>>> I feel sorry for Mitch Altman, who lent his good name, face and <br>>>> promotional talents to the event.<br>>>> <br>>>> I, for one, will no longer be watching anything from Ben Heck, Jeri <br>
>>> Ellsworth or other 'hackers' who remain associated with Element 14. <br>>>> Sorry folks but you are tainted by continued association.<br>>>> <br>>>> Jerry Isdale<br>>>> <a href="http://MauiMakers.com">http://MauiMakers.com</a><br>
>>> <br>>>> Begin forwarded message:<br>>>> <br>>>> *From: *Mark Sanders <<a href="mailto:mark.sanders@agentsilverfox.com">mark.sanders@agentsilverfox.com</a>><br>>>> *Date: *August 24, 2011 10:14:48 AM HST<br>
>>> *To: *<a href="mailto:hackerspacechallenge@agentsilverfox.com">hackerspacechallenge@agentsilverfox.com</a><br>>>> *Subject: **[GGHC] Closing the Great Global Hackerspace Challenge*<br>>>> *Reply-To: *<a href="mailto:hackerspacechallenge@agentsilverfox.com">hackerspacechallenge@agentsilverfox.com</a><br>
>>> <br>>>> Hi there,<br>>>> <br>>>> I've been putting off sending this email. We haven't been able to <br>>>> secure the products from our client element14 that were promised to <br>
>>> you. Silverfox, the company that organized the Great Global <br>>>> Hackerspace Competition, will no longer be working with element14. The<br>>> <br>>>> nature of the business relationship and the contracts between our two <br>
>>> companies have not been respected and we have no choice but to part <br>>>> ways. I won't go into detail but our legal council has advised us that<br>>> we are obliged to shut down this mailing list.<br>
>>> <br>>>> Even at this late stage I honestly thought that we could find a way to<br>>> <br>>>> make good on this situation but unfortunately the practicalities <br>>>> didn't allow it. You all worked tremendously hard and your enthusiasm <br>
>>> for this project was truly outstanding. We are personally working on <br>>>> alternate arrangements to provide the products that were committed to <br>>>> you. We can't make any immediate commitments but I look forward to <br>
>>> following up with you all when we have a solution in place.<br>>>> <br>>>> My direct email is <a href="mailto:mark.sanders@agentsilverfox.com">mark.sanders@agentsilverfox.com</a>.<br>>>> <br>
>>> <br>>>> Our client at element14 is Sabrina Deitch,<br>>>> <br>>>> Sr. Brand Marketing Manager****<br>>>> <br>>>> Newark & element14****<br>>>> <a href="mailto:sdeitch@newark.com">sdeitch@newark.com</a>,<br>
>>> <br>>>> T: 773 907 5616<br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> MARK SANDERS | SILVERFOX | o 415.701.1701 c:408.728.4674<br>>>> <br>>>> <a href="http://twitter.com/agentsilverfox">twitter.com/agentsilverfox</a><br>
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