[hackerspaces] moar mate

Alexandre Dulaunoy a at foo.be
Sun Sep 12 19:19:44 CEST 2010

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 6:36 PM, webmind <webmind at puscii.nl> wrote:
> On 2010-09-12 18:21, Alexandre Dulaunoy wrote:
>> Regarding Club-Mate, there is a kind of paradox in all the hackerspaces.
>> Club-Mate is the default drink available at any hackerspace around the
>> world but I haven't seen too much hacking around it (except an article in
>> Makezine/2010).
> Well, there has been some creativity with recipes and club-mate. Besides
> the usual cocktails there are also club-mate pancakes. I'm sure there
> are more recipes possible. food-hacking ftw :)
>> The main plant extract in Club-Mate is the "Ilex paraguariensis" (common name:
>> Yerba mate) and the main active components are : theobromine
>> (well-known to the chocolate fan), caffeine (everyone knows) and
>> dimethylxanthine (the increase of heart pulsation is mainly due to
>> that component).
> do you have source of what these xantheines do to you? I haven't been
> able to find any reliable information besides that they have an impact
> on the regulation of hormones (such as adrenaline).

The methylxanthines-derivative were well-known components used for
asthma treatment
(now replaced with other drugs) and you can find a lot of publication
on the side-effects.

I think the main publication in the area is :


"Influence of Caffeine and Other Methylxanthines on Mechanical
Properties of Isolated Mammalian Heart Muscle"

and all the publications mentioning the side-effects of asthma
treatment using methylxanthine. I assume that Club-Mate/Ilex extract
includes multiple
derivative of methylxanthines as the xanthine is a very general
group... and usually
some plants could do the synthesis of multiple variations (as the
theomobromine or the caffeine are already variation of the xanthine

It seems only a specific sub-species of the Ilex contains multiple


>> The plant cultivation needs specific condition to grow properly but
>> maybe there are some opportunities of gardening hacking? Can
>> we grow easily "Yerba Mate" in pot inside? or even outside in
>> continental weather condition? What are the ways of extraction/brewing
>> and how can we properly measure the active components inside?
> Good questions! The loscher people keep their methods secret, but I do
> recall hearing about open-source recipes.

I would be very interested to hear about free-production method for the
Yerba Mate and how the extraction is efficiently performed.

This sounds to be a nice hacking project.


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