[hackerspaces] Fwd: [austin-hacker-space] Speaking at Defcon

Dave Null noid23 at gmail.com
Mon May 10 00:38:22 CEST 2010 

Ya a number of us were on that 'how to start a hackerspace' panel at Defcon
last year. I'd say the 'how to' part is done to death. Yes, 99% of the
population is unaware of hackerspaces, just as they are buffer overflow
attacks, and SQL injection techniques. Those folks won't be at Defcon.

My advice would be to do one (or both) of the following:

1. Put together a 'how to start a hackerspace/WTF is a hackerspace?' talk
and take it to where the folks are that are unaware of the concept. Deliver
it at your local library, technical user groups, art collectives, nerd
friendly machine shop, college, etc.


2. If you want to deliver something at Defcon (or any other con for that
matter), put together a presentation based around something awesome that you
are doing at/with your space that others could learn from and replicate or a
project you're seeking collaboration on with other groups/spaces. Demos are
always appreciated at conferences too. Maybe demo a MakerBot or some sort of
prototyping machine or show off the hyper-intelligent shark you genetically
engineered in your 500K gallon shark tank (you *do* have a 500K gallon shark
tank at your shop right?)

alternately, go with Matt's suggestion and roll into the HHV and dominate

-noid

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On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:

> As I said... I don't disagree with the thrust... I disagree with the
> execution.  But adding to my prior post... if someone from a hackerspace
> does do a talk... or knows someone doing a talk have them mention the
> hardware hacking  village and that there are a bunch of folks from
> hackerspaces there doing stuff.
>
> I mean... just saying... "HEY WE HAVE A WORKSHOP ISN'T THAT AWESOME" isn't
> really enough.  You need to say... CHECK OUT THIS AWESOME THING WE DID!  Oh
> You want to be a part of that!?!  Here's how....
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Jens Christian Hillerup <jens at hillerup.net
> > wrote:
>
>> Speaking as a DEFCON newbie until last year I found the talk on
>> hackerspaces very interesting, and thus I support submitting another one.
>> Yes, it will be repetitive and redundant, and everything we say has been
>> said before -- but isn't that what we're after? I mean, people going to
>> attend the talk (no matter how few or many) will have an honest desire to
>> know whatever we/you/they are going to talk about.
>>
>> As I see it, Matt, you are saying it is irrelevant to teach people about
>> something they want to know, which sounds very unhackerish to me.
>>
>> -jc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Matthew McCabe <matt at mrmccabe.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Lol, sounds as good as any other suggestion I have heard ;)
>>>
>>> Thinking about it for a bit, here is my goal for Defcon: Have some
>>> kind of forum for people to learn more about hackerspaces, discuss
>>> some of the current issues/problems, new projects, etc.  Also, give
>>> n00bs a chance to learn more about hackerspaces and how to start them.
>>>
>>> Perhaps a talk isn't the right way to do this?  Maybe have a more
>>> informal meet-up or room for this?  I know that one year some
>>> hackerspace peps setup a room at Defcon...though I am not sure how
>>> that went.
>>>
>>> My concern is that I have not heard of anything hackerspace related
>>> going down at Defcon.  Seriously folks, this is cool shit, lets get
>>> the word out to some new recruits!
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Paul Bohm <paul at boehm.org> wrote:
>>> > Hackerspaces Mudwrestling!
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Matthew McCabe <matt at mrmccabe.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> So what exactly do you propose, Matt?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Matt
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> Most conferences have begged no one to submit a hackerspaces how to
>>> talk.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> There's a reason for this.  It's repetitive.  No conference wants the
>>> same
>>> >>> talk given as it was given elsewhere.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> That's the whole point of conferences... to see what "NEW" stuff
>>> people are
>>> >>> working on.  In fact if you check most request for proposal pages
>>> they
>>> >>> specifically ask people not to submit talks that have been given
>>> elsewhere.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From DEFCON 18 RFP:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "We are looking for and give preference to: unique research, new tool
>>> >>> releases, Ø-day attacks (with responsible disclosure), highly
>>> technical
>>> >>> material, social commentaries, and ground breaking material of any
>>> kind.
>>> >>> Want to screen a new hacking documentary or release research?
>>> Consider DEF
>>> >>> CON."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> What I am saying is... the "this is how you start a hackerspace!"
>>> >>> presentation has been given before.  Design Patterns, Hope,
>>> Notacon... and a
>>> >>> bunch of other conferences... probably defcon too ( too drunk to
>>> remember
>>> >>> much of that con ).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It's not unique, and it's not groundbreaking.  If you want to spread
>>> the
>>> >>> word about hackerspaces do something UNIQUE and GROUNDBREAKING.  Get
>>> people
>>> >>> to say "hey what's a hackerspace!?"  then they will see the large
>>> amount of
>>> >>> material already on the internet concerning them... including the
>>> plethora
>>> >>> of fine presentations on how to start one up.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I am not saying I am opposed to the thrust of your goal... just the
>>> >>> execution.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Regards,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>    Matt
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Matthew McCabe <matt at mrmccabe.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> In the interest of beating this dead horse a bit less, I will keep
>>> this
>>> >>>> short ;)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Matt - hackerspaces are a new thing to 99% of the population...lets
>>> >>>> educate them!
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I think it is important to have a hackerspace talk ever year at
>>> Defcon
>>> >>>> to educate newbies on what a hackerspace is, how to start one,
>>> >>>> problems, solutions, etc.  I would have loved to hear something like
>>> >>>> this when I was thinking about starting a space rather than walking
>>> >>>> into it more-or-less blindly.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Again, I propose a 15-20 minute talk about how one hackerspace, AHS,
>>> >>>> started as an example of the good, bad, and ugly of starting a
>>> space.
>>> >>>> Then open up the floor to questions from people on problems they are
>>> >>>> experiencing starting a space, where to get more info, general
>>> >>>> hackerspace issues that have come up in the last year, etc.  That is
>>> >>>> where you all come in - I would like to get a few more experienced
>>> >>>> founders/members on the panel so that we can give good answers to
>>> some
>>> >>>> of the more difficult or controversial questions/problems.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>> Matt
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>> > This talk has been done to death.  I suggest finding a more
>>> original
>>> >>>> > topic.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > On May 9, 2010 12:05 PM, "Bryan Bishop" <kanzure at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >>>> > From: Matthew McCabe <matt at mrmccabe.com>
>>> >>>> > Date: Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:58 AM
>>> >>>> > Subject: [austin-hacker-space] Speaking at Defcon
>>> >>>> > To: austin-hacker-space at googlegroups.com
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > I am going to submit a proposal for a talk at Defcon on starting a
>>> >>>> > hackerspace.  Specifically, I would like to give a short
>>> presentation
>>> >>>> > (15-20 minutes) on how we built the Austin Hackerspace and then
>>> leave
>>> >>>> > the remainder of the hour (50 minutes actually) open for questions
>>> to
>>> >>>> > the panel.  The panel will hopefully consist of a couple members
>>> of
>>> >>>> > AHS as well as members from other hackerspaces around the world.
>>>  That
>>> >>>> > way, we will have the combined expertise to answer any "how-to"
>>> >>>> > questions from the audience.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > If you are interested in participating, please e-mail me your bio:
>>> >>>> > "This text will be used for the website and printed materials.
>>> Cover
>>> >>>> > any professional history that is relevant to the presentation,
>>> >>>> > including past jobs, tools that you have written, etc. Let people
>>> know
>>> >>>> > who you are and why you are qualified to speak on your topic.
>>> >>>> > Presentations that are submitted without biographies will not be
>>> >>>> > considered."
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Also, please tell me how you plan to contribute to the panel.  You
>>> >>>> > must be willing to field questions from the audience if you are
>>> going
>>> >>>> > to sit on the panel.  Also, you need to be 100% certain that you
>>> are
>>> >>>> > going to be in Vegas July 30th - August 1st.  The talk may be
>>> >>>> > scheduled on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday so you need to be
>>> available
>>> >>>> > all three days to speak.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > The deadline is June 1st - all of the details are here:
>>> >>>> > http://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-18/dc-18-cfp-form.html
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Thanks,
>>> >>>> > Matt
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > --
>>> >>>> > - Bryan
>>> >>>> > http://heybryan.org/
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