[hackerspaces] Children in hackerspaces.

[Nick Farr (hackerspaces.org)]

Two questions:

1) How old were you when you got involved in hacking?
2) How many of you actually have kids?

I'm guessing that most of you were somehow hacking on something well
before you turned 18.  I'm also guessing most of you don't have kids.

That we're sacrificing not only the future of Hacking in general, but
THE FUTURE for *insurance reasons* strikes me as a horrendous FAIL.
This is the same kind of thinking that led people to believe it was
far too risky to build a Hackerspace at all.

Can we perhaps have a discussion of ways we could possibly accommodate
kids, of perhaps engaging our communities, parents, and others younger
than we who could benefit from the Hackerspaces?  Could we point at
some success stories?

That this conversation ended this way signals to me that Hackerspaces
have peaked, and that it's all downhill from here.

Nick Farr / http://nickfarr.org / 8B13F204
Washington, DC, 20013-1208
P: +1 (707) 676-FARR
F: +1 (866) 536-2616



On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 14:20, webmind <webmind at puscii.nl> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Serendipity Seraph wrote:
>> But what exactly is a minor?  I know some 7 year olds who can hack rings
>> around me in certain domains and are at least as little accident prone.
>>   Then I know some dear grown up geeks that I wouldn't want to see
>> moving around much away from their domain of expertise without
>> supervision.   :)   At the very least a lot of teenage hackers should
>> not be a big issue.
>
> The idea that I'm getting that it's purely a legal issue. So a minor
> would be anyone who has his own responsibility. I believe that for most
> countries to be atleast 18 or up, in the Netherlands it would be 16 or
> 18 I think.
>
> But as you point out, it doesn't say anything about the capabilities of
> the person at hand.
>
> Personally I would care less about legal responsibility issues, atleast
> in this country, and look more at the practical side if you can think
> someone can handle the equipment you provide them access to.
>
> w.
>
> - --
> URL: http://blog.u2m.nl/
> GPG-Key: 4096R/FCF154AE 2008-10-19 [expires: 2012-10-18]
> Key fingerprint: 0506 976E 2346 53B4 A628  EC33 E23D 16EE FCF1 54AE
> Key URL: https://hosting.puscii.nl/~webmind/webmind.asc
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>
> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLX0BhAAoJEOI9Fu788VSugQgP/3QKkEEb7sO1Aje2f+JsvB97
> x7uf5a5niAUKaU2u8rQo2oEGbg+r66qffCYE8fL1IF+XUo2d5tPdFlj8jG6DIGBF
> O7XaFFMmuNNqsK+8z8tFszCK+NBiDOA/B0l2y5XFoLWZn03vrTd7bh7vRuO2tmI2
> a5uojT57LOnqUMh/hoRtl4yajEeP6H26czSsY/7OwODfa6uDfq3fhWRXRxT1GOAp
> M7b6Qd2qBcubboWjKf3TtkPZJpCI5PJ9ZlZpCTIRe7GHyRycswgLaTnBOyyK5rLG
> 4aZKnSG2GLUYyKysWucqtOBQByoKgRHQnx4u/z033/15cLFq/Zze8aXdOhdg2WYm
> o2YAC/iDwE8cRb898CgDZyo42Y+kljDk+BUyveWhMx0F6O11YEBm9hGYsRZfmv59
> HLoI8Ytc+7xWFtsi6WSazDJPh/kcrhY9f4M98dpEnbvkv8Zb3TANn4fMDJLNyuvL
> CIINdXuS0fptRyzJDR9Xiueubs5ZLybhOoMxn8IKzCmvVWXxENeF2KxVle6kXcyZ
> /WCi2JAEo7+7VFLDz93KM21cmC0E5GO6hGbYnnjoHB1yR+pSSz0fqs7YaND8s5PV
> 4TCbMz2h3DFCtoX2/sKGgYfa4xbB4c/qG5F0O9FO2ItDpb8HCM3hyQlVEEdyC9C8
> qMVEMvHHrjiCo3tGrkro
> =Q3lU
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>