[hackerspaces] Translating word 'hackerspace' to other languages?
Chris Weiss
cweiss at gmail.com
Sat Aug 28 16:03:18 CEST 2010
this may be way to obvious, but since you didn't mention it, what's
the finnish word for a hacker, or what is the type of person usually
called?
And does it have to be 1 word? on a pure technical standpoint,
"hackerspace" is an abuse of English, it should be 2 words, but it
being a sort of proper noun allows the liberty to taken and accepted.
I don't know the first thing about finnish, but a quick play with a
english-finnish dictionary lead me to hakka paikka which, in my head,
has a nice alliteration to it
another option would be to take it apart and back to the roots, maybe
as far back as latin, and see if you can bring it forward to finnish
in a sensible way.
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Jarkko Moilanen <Jarkko.Moilanen at uta.fi> wrote:
> Thanks for the answers. The option not to translate is a bit difficult in
> Finnish (probably in some other languages as well), since we have 15
> conjugation forms which does not consist of two or more words (like in
> English), instead it is always one word. The conjugation is added as suffix.
> So, in brief it sounds so ridiculous to add Finnish suffixes to English
> word. But I think it's just one of those things we have to live with :)
>
> Jarkko
>
> Quoting Yves Quemener <quemener.yves at free.fr>:
>
>> Here in Grenoble, France, when we want to avoid to put 'hacker', we call
>> it
>> a "laboratoire ouvert" (open laboratory) but usually "hackerspace" is a
>> far
>> superior way of opening the discussion :-)
>>
>> On 08/28/2010 01:46 PM, das ende der nahrungskette wrote:
>>>
>>> in german we don't translate it... it's still hackerspace.
>>> i mean, we also don't translate basketball or cursor. and if people do it
>>> it just sounds silly.
>>> the benefit of language is its ability to adapt. and if a foreign term
>>> makes sense you don't need to find a local one...
>>>
>>> Sent via Brain-Computer Interface.
>>>
>>> On 28.08.2010, at 13:32, Jarkko Moilanen <Jarkko.Moilanen at uta.fi> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The following might sound childish, but respecting own language (as well
>>>> as other languages) is fundamental to some of us, at least for me.
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering how people from non-English speaking countries have
>>>> translated the word 'hackerspace'? The issue has been around among Finnish
>>>> hackers for several months and we can't seem to find a solution to this. We
>>>> need to talk about hackerspaces is Finnish to non-hackers and alike and a
>>>> good word is definitely needed. Some Finnish hackers use term 'hacklab' but
>>>> it is not Finnish. Everyone knows that direct translation hardly ever works.
>>>>
>>>> How to translate hackerspace to single and similar striking word in
>>>> other languages? Of course we can use longer term or give an explanation,
>>>> which we do, but that is not ideal. I bet others have found solutions to
>>>> this situation. Could you give us some light or direction how to solve this
>>>> issue? Or is it just a question of time; a suitable word will just pop up?
>>>>
>>>> Oh! and sorry if I wasted your time (and inbox space) with this
>>>> ridiculous non-technical question ;)
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Jarkko
>>>>
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