[hackerspaces] was: need a hacker should be: how not to make a fool of ourselves and ride us deeper into the hacker/cracker stigma

Dave Null noid23 at gmail.com
Fri Aug 27 19:43:01 CEST 2010

I thought it was funny. If someone who previously thought we were all a
bunch of criminals now thinks we're all a bunch of jerks, I'm not going to
lose any sleep over it.

Now back to soldering..

PGP Key ID: 0x0517358E
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are
free" - Goethe

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Chris <nameless at subluminal.net> wrote:

> I'm sorry that my trolling offended some people. Perhaps you would have
> handled the situation differently. I did not. I didn't cause here to mess up
> her computer, I didn't do anything illegal, and I may have scared her away
> from doing something that could get her in trouble. Was it nice, no. Was it
> funny, you be the judge of that, I think it was. If one of you would like to
> email her and educate her, be my guest, but I will continue to troll people
> that ask for black hat type hackers in a public space and I will make
> no apologies for it.
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jean de Largentaye <jean at largentaye.org>wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Chris Weiss <cweiss at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I find it impossible that a person would be
>> > literate and smart enough to figure out how to join a mailing list and
>> > yet not know that posing such a statement would induce ridicule.
>> > Allowing myself to think this is possible would completely destroy
>> > what little faith I have left in humanity's future.
>> What little faith you have is more than mine :) You know the saying:
>> "Don't attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by
>> stupidity".
>> For evidence, I'll direct you to fark.com, the Darwin Awards, and of
>> course, Fox News. You can be smart on some things and very very stupid
>> on others. For example, remember the scandal about the NASA astronaut
>> trying to kidnap a romantic rival? [1]
>> That said, little faith in humanity doesn't mean I have lost patience
>> with it. On the contrary, I try to have infinite patience. One of my
>> great pleasures is seeing someone understand something I explain to
>> them. I just try to avoid having any preconceptions about someone's
>> intelligence and culture. That means I usually start them at the
>> bottom of the scale. I'm sometimes told I appear arrogant and
>> condescendent... ;)
>> [1] first google hit:
>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/171164/nasa_fires_astronaut_in_love_triangle.html
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