[hackerspaces] Abbenay hackspace building status

3ric Johanson 3ricj at shmoo.com
Sat Dec 26 01:45:26 CET 2009

So....  there is a large backstory here.

You may already know this, but your message makes me think you may not; 
forgive me if this is unneeded information:

In many (most?) parts of europe, there are literally things known as 
'squatters rights'.   Berlin, for example, has many huge buildings which 
have been taken over by artists who just run the place.  I know several 
EU hackerspaces which are existing this way.

The details of the laws vary, but in short, taking over an abandoned 
building, even if there is an owner, isn't the same as doing it in the 
US.  I'm sure someone here could provide more details.


Deech wrote:
> I'm not trying to be belligerent or anything, but I don't understand
> the circumstances here.
> As far as I can tell, this building was vacant and owned by someone
> else. This group decided to set up shop in someone else's building,
> without permission. The building owner did not want them there, and
> eventually got the police to forcibly evict the squatters from their
> property.
> Yet, it seems the tone is that we should feel sympathy that the group
> was evicted and wronged in some way.
> That's how I've gathered the information, thus I don't really
> understand the point of view here.
> If I'm wrong, please correct me. I'm all for the underdog, but the
> underdog needs to have the moral high ground and in this case, I can't
> see that they do, or I'm just not understanding.
> Help me out here?
> -Deech
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Sébastien Bourdeauducq
> <sebastien.bourdeauducq at lekernel.net> wrote:
>> In case you were wondering what happened of the building that we squatted in
>> Stockholm earlier this year:
>> http://lekernel.net/blog/?p=769
>> Sébastien
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