[hs-equality] The history of this project, where should it go now?

[Jenn C]

Threads elsewhere having me thinking about this again.

It seems like with limited time it would be better as we start to err on
the side of trust perhaps and just let people post the things they have. Is
there a way to frame the site as a collection of voices on this topic so
that there is room for not every post to be a perfect representation of one
right way, while still making sure that really off topic or blatant -isms
aren't posted?

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Bracken Dawson <abdawson at gmail.com> wrote:

> I spent most of this evening going through the surviving documentation and
> watching the hangouts. I didn't know that this mailing list was actually
> started for this project, I'm happy discussing the project verbosely here.
>
> I think wordpress is a good place to draft and review blog posts, my
> space's blog allows others to edit (one at a time) before someone with
> access hits publish. I'd like to write news posts introducing two things I
> only found out about this week: Queercon - who have a presence at many
> conferences (such as DEFCON) and an epic conference badge. Their site seems
> to still be downed by a hackaday post which has an entertaining comments
> thread. And GX3 (previously GaymerX) - who are now 28 hours away from a
> fully funded kickstarter for their gaming convention later this year. I saw
> Jenn C also suggested a news about gender equality in STEM and may also be
> requesting a wordpress login. How do others think we should draft these
> posts?
>
> I think the resources for spaces/events and the badges thing we can give
> to spaces & events that meet guidelines should be a high priority rather
> than an "eventually" goal, it's an excellent way of doing search engine
> optimisation. Also, is it appropriate to have "you shouldn't discriminate
> against any kind of hacking" as a requirement? My space definitely allows
> any kind of hacking, but there are some events and spaces (not necessarily
> hackerspaces) that have a topic, but equality in all other respects is
> still important.
>
> Itching to get typing basically, but I don't want the ability to press
> publish on anything. Are we going to do hangouts again or just use this
> list?
>
> Regards,
> Bracken
>
> :wq
>
> On 16 September 2014 20:08, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
>
>> Breaking off the previous thread into a few different things.
>>
>> So a bunch of us that wanted to make this thing happen had a few
>> meetings and a lot of email discussion on this list. If you've got the
>> chance and feel like it, I would highly recommend going through all that
>> as there's some golden stuff there....
>>
>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/pipermail/equality/
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpXOAtS6dO4
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rApJRiOc1w
>>
>> We also sort of have a corner of the Hackerspaces.org wiki, with a very
>> preliminary mission statement (which a better more edited version sadly
>> got eaten up by riseup's etherpad after none of us touched it for a
>> month). It's kind of hard to grasp what the original goals were, and I'm
>> also having a hard time finding any emails of mine that described our
>> original intentions, so I felt like I should write something here for
>> posterity. I'll leave it up to others who want to have more stake in
>> this onto what direction they want to take the site/group into.
>>
>> * Lay out a general guideline for what what equality means within the
>> hacker/maker/tech scene/spaces
>> ** Outline that prejudiced isn't just limited to getting picked on
>> through label of gender, sexual configurations and/or race, but even
>> things like getting railed on/cornered out for things like operating
>> system preferences or being told arts and crafts are not hacking and
>> don't belong in a space.
>> ** Utilize this vector of helping those who don't understand what it's
>> like to be ostracized from a group because of one of the more major
>> issues when they most likely have have the same feelings through
>> something minor (i.e. "it hurt to be told vim is better than emails, now
>> imagine what if that was your identity"
>>
>> * Eventually start to partner up with spaces/groups that adopt and
>> follow through with these guidelines.
>>
>> * Provide a community, safe space, to discuss relevant topics and to
>> provide outreach to those who've been potentially hurt
>> ** The website
>> ** Mailing list
>> ** Monthly video chat meeting things
>> ** Panels at cons
>> ** Meetups in person!
>>
>> * Provide resources to all groups on how to make things in this realm of
>> suckage suck a lot less.
>> ** Our own content
>> ** Links to other sites
>>
>> That's most of what I remember, and maybe should go onto the wiki.
>> Anyhow, I'm hoping this will prompt some discussion about specifically
>> this, what do we want to do? :)
>>
>> --
>> Rubin
>> rubin at starset.net
>>
>>
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