[hackerspaces-theory] ping

Wed Dec 5 13:25:15 CET 2012

Now we are talking true "theory".  I honestly don't know how hackerspaces could garner more professional interest.  I've had this discussion before, with many people and I few consistent points are raised:

1. "You mean actual Hackers?" Yes, the name is often something that people are a little afraid of.  Hackers are not usually portrayed well and the name is a little intimidating.  Makerspace or techspace is a little more family friendly of a name.

2. hackerspace spawned corporate startups may do better to handle funding and contracts better than a stand alone hackerspace for management and leadership reasons (hiring, firing, accounting, etc.)

3. Charity work is nothing to be ashamed of.  Freeside Atlanta is involved in many non-profit community activities.  It may not be institutional research, but it may still be a viable publishing opportunity for "applied social services".

In my case, a member of Freeside contacted me in the Makerbot forums in reply to me asking advice.  He offered to show me around Freeside so I suppose its up the hackerspaces to offer assistance.

Who knows,
Nick

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On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:39 PM, Yves Quemener <quemener.yves at free.fr> wrote:

> Interesting thanks. I had misreaded it first, I thought the hackerspace
> members were also medical doctors. So this is really a cooperation between
> medical professionals and technical hobbyists, nice!
> 
> 
> In your case, the leading force was provided by the research professional,
> seeking technical advice. Do you have an advice as to how hackerspacers
> could advertise their skills to researchers or even how to lead the works
> ending with a publication?
> 
> 
> My mini-rant about the date was that I found strange that scientific
> publication have a very codified format and structure with author names,
> attached institution, reference lists, but that the date or writing (sorry,
> I used "redaction" instead of "writing", another fake homonym from French)
> is not part of the standard format. Anyway, this is not very important.
> 
> On 05/12/12 14:00, Dr. Glass DPM wrote:
>> It was a combination of various physicians, who collaborated with the two
>> Freesiders.  In a nutshell, the lead author (me) was seeking access and
>> assistance, trying to convert the CT scan data into a useable 3D printed
>> surgical template.  I was in over my head, (as I knew nothing of 3D
>> printing at the time).  Clifford Smith and Larry Trowell offered to help
>> out, and invited me to Freeside to learn more about 3D printing, and
>> troubleshoot a few solutions.  The end result was a genuine collaboration
>> between Medical Researchers and a local Hackerspace.
>> 
>> The folks over at Makerbot were very please to see it work out well, and
>> because we used a Makerbot TOM for our initial prototypes, they wrote a
>> little blog entry about
>> it http://www.makerbot.com/blog/2012/06/12/surgeon-finds-big-savings-with-makerbot-3d-printing/
>> 
>> I have since become a little more involved with Freeside as a member now
>> and continue to work on a few more research related projects at the space.
>> Many Freesiders dabble in hacking/making in our free time, but most
>> members are in the tech job sector anyhow.  It is tough to argue for
>> university assistance, unless you are tied directly into the academic
>> institution itself.  Grant proposals and such also take a lot of time.
>> With Freeside, they had a lot of the technology at hand, and were
>> super-eager to share their knowledge and push things forward.  We didn't
>> have to ask for permission or schedule access to university equipment.  We
>> just grabbed a cup of coffee and got to work.
>> 
>> I am, however, pursuing a research fellowship at the University of Arizona
>> (Tucson) in the coming year, after residency is over, and I wanted to link
>> up University resources with the local hacker community and hopefully put
>> together some ideas.  If anyone knows someone from the Arizona Hacking
>> scene, I'd love to be in touch.
>> 
>> The date of publication is in the header of the article itself.  Not all
>> journals follow an annual release cycle, so they use Volume number, Issue
>> number, etc.  This article was published in May 2012.  I'm not quite
>> certain what you mean by "redaction" in this instance...
>> 
>> Nicholas Giovinco
>> Dr. Glass DPM - Video Podcast
>> www.youtube.com/DrGlassDPM <http://www.youtube.com/DrGlassDPM>
>> www.drglass.org <http://www.drglass.org>
>> glass.dpm at gmail.com <mailto:glass.dpm at gmail.com>
>> 
>> On 4Dec, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Yves Quemener <quemener.yves at free.fr
>> <mailto:quemener.yves at free.fr>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Our messages crossed each other...
>>> 
>>> It is very interesting! My understanding is in that paper 7 doctors
>>> collaborated and two of them (Clifford Smith and Larry Trowell) cited
>>> Freeside Atlanta as their lab, right?
>>> 
>>> Can you give us a bit more details? Was that part of their professional
>>> work or was this done on their hobby-time? Are there any specific
>>> implications for them or for Freeside Technology Space? Do you think it
>>> could have been done without the support of "official" universities and
>>> institutes?
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the many question, but this is exciting.
>>> 
>>> Yves
>>> 
>>> PS : oh and an optional question that is a pet-peeve of mine : why on hell
>>> do people not consider it important to put the date of publication or
>>> redaction in their articles?
>>> 
>>> On 05/12/12 10:30, Dr. Glass DPM wrote:
>>>> On the topic of research, yes.
>>>> (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=22366474)
>>>> 
>>>> Freeside Atlanta is a hackerspace in downtown Atlanta, GA, USA, and we have
>>>> recently published a peer reviewed manuscript in the "Journal of Foot and
>>>> Ankle Surgery" using 3D printing for pre-operative planning.   We don't
>>>> regularly publish peer reviewed publication material, but I would be happy
>>>> to talk about the publication potential of hackerspace's, etc.  
>>>> 
>>>> I've attached the article itself if you have any questions.
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/erbhuirhvge2x72/3DP-JFAS.pdf
>>>> 
>>>> Email me (off list) if you need the document attached directly,
>>>> Nicholas Giovinco
>>>> Dr. Glass DPM - Video Podcast
>>>> www.youtube.com/DrGlassDPM <http://www.youtube.com/DrGlassDPM>
>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/DrGlassDPM>
>>>> www.drglass.org <http://www.drglass.org> <http://www.drglass.org>
>>>> glass.dpm at gmail.com <mailto:glass.dpm at gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:glass.dpm at gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>> On 4Dec, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Yves Quemener <quemener.yves at free.fr
>>>> <mailto:quemener.yves at free.fr>
>>>> <mailto:quemener.yves at free.fr>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 05/12/12 10:12, James Carlson wrote:
>>>>>> This wiki talks more about the formation and operation of a space at a
>>>>>> detailed tactical level--we approached it from dealing with the common
>>>>>> questions we get from spaces in the Space Federation, questions like "How
>>>>>> do I incorporate?" which are of a different character than the Design
>>>>>> Patterns are meant to accommodate.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The tactical level will be different from country to country. Be sure to
>>>>> not just assume that your audience lives in the US.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you are interested, I can provide you with the non-profit statuses that
>>>>> we used to register two hackerspaces in France (The LOG in Grenoble and the
>>>>> LOL in Lyon). I'll just have to blank the spaces for the name and
>>>>> addresses.
>>>>> 
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