[sudoroom] [sudo-discuss] A thought for a collaborative hacking enterprise: drone net

Sat Jan 5 07:24:56 CET 2013

We discussed this a bit at sudo room tonight. I think the major problem
that we should solve is how to keep the drones in the air. Jae and I were
talking about creating charging stations for quadcopters. I think that if
we solved this issue the rest will fall in to place. The charging stations
could just be contact plates that the drones could locate and dock with.

Anyone interested in working on a project like that?

--Andrew

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>wrote:

> It would be really useful to have an open source gunfire locator system,
> similar to the ShotSpotter system Oakland is currently paying lots of bucks
> for:
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/us/shots-heard-pinpointed-and-argued-over.html
>
> ShotSpotter is using microphones across the city to instantaneously locate
> where in the city a gunshot came from. Microphones on aerial drones would
> pose much less of a privacy issue - they only have to be sensitive enough
> that any gunshot is picked up by at least three drones - and you could send
> a camera to the site of any gunshot within minutes.
>
> Patrik
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <
> ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I love the idea of drones, how about a drone surveillance network for
>> downtown Oakland? It could be a safety thing with criss crossing coverage
>> of a fairly small radius and maybe payed for by local companies, businesses
>> and residents? No payload but you could potentially see charging a monthly
>> fee for a panic button on a mobile phone that would launch a drone to your
>> co-ordinates to observe, record and interact in a potentially dangerous
>> situation or an ongoing crime which could be streamed out to the web or
>> emergency responders? It might actually have an effect on crime,
>> particularly if an operator could boom out from the drone in response to a
>> robbery or something like that?
>>
>> Very 1984 but it could be useful in increasing local safety and might
>> have a sustainable business model!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Jehan Tremback <jehan.tremback at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> We should try to come up with convenient labels that contain both a qr
>>> code and a sufficient amount of magnetic metal to be used as a secure
>>> carrying attachment point. These could then be attached to plastic bags.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Jehan Tremback <
>>> jehan.tremback at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately there is probably some liability to a building owner
>>>> whose roof is being used a charging and relay point for the drones. They
>>>> would probably need some sort of license or card for their property to be
>>>> used as a transfer point for the product.
>>>>
>>>> The solution to this is to separate charging and relay stations. Drones
>>>> pass product off on another convenient rooftop near the charging station.
>>>> They then charge at the actual station, holding no merchandise at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Jae Kwon <jkwon.work at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> gears, frames, rotors, yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Aaron Juchau <aaronjuchau at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Could the 3D printer print workable rotors, frames, gears, etc?
>>>>> Sudocopter?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Jae Kwon <jkwon.work at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> While noting that all emails get saved somewhere in a bunker for use
>>>>>> against us, I want to mention that light, valuable pharmaceutical delivered
>>>>>> by drones in the bay area sound interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Jehan Tremback <jehan.tremback at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ah pharmaceuticals... that's ideal. The challenge is to find other
>>>>>> light, valuable things. Small electronic parts for example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Anthony Di Franco <
>>>>>> di.franco at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know if anyone has publicly looked at that comprehensively,
>>>>>>> but about a year ago a startup called matternet was assuming about a
>>>>>>> kilogram of payload, about 30 minuted of flight time at some I guess lowish
>>>>>>> speed and looking at transporting pharmaceuticals in places without roads
>>>>>>> such as interior Africa: low weight, high value, timeliness matters a lot.
>>>>>>> That would seem to be about the ballpark in which one would be playing.
>>>>>>> Imagine.
>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013 2:07 PM, "Jehan Tremback" <jehan.tremback at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What could it be used for? How much weight can a drone carry? Let's
>>>>>>>> stick to current technologies, as the development of such key components as
>>>>>>>> batteries, motors, and materials is unlikely to be affected much by the
>>>>>>>> development of this network (unlike the internet, where demand quickly
>>>>>>>> caused a lot of innovation in networking equipment).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Anthony Di Franco <
>>>>>>>> di.franco at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2013/01/dronenet-the-next-big-thing.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (I'm a bit interested in the routing problem myself.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "A short distance drone delivery service built on an open
>>>>>>>>> protocol.  Think short haul logistics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "It's a system that will explode in a way that is very similar to
>>>>>>>>> the way the Internet grew up -- where connections were bought by
>>>>>>>>> individuals and installed one modem and IP address at a time, and where the
>>>>>>>>> early providers are local geeks with shelves full of modems and an
>>>>>>>>> expensive T-1 lines.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "It's an approach that uses "uncontrolled airspace" and
>>>>>>>>> incremental purchases of cheap, standards compliant pads/drones to roll
>>>>>>>>> itself out (very similar to the way the Internet was able to piggy back on
>>>>>>>>> the old telephone system).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "As a result of this open approach and decentralization, it's
>>>>>>>>> something that could grow VERY fast."
>>>>>>>>>
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