[sudoroom] separation of politics and hackerspace?

[Jehan Tremback]

neutral place of learning?

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Jacob Shiach <kingjacob at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just want to say that SudoRoom was started specifically to be more than
> just a space. If a space and equipment is all that someone wants, there's
> Techshop. Tinkering is fun and a good way to learn, but for me at least
> that's not enough. Why should we limit ourselves to making blinky things
> when the world is full of challenging problems? Seems a lot more
> interesting to me. Plus the small side effect of making people's lives
> better.
>
> Ps social justice, digital citizenship and citizen science aren't
> political, they're just good ideas.
>
> -
> Jacob Shiach
>
>
> On May 9, 2012, at 10:58 PM, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I think the impression that SudoRoom is more about social justice than
> > about "hacking" is simply due to the fact that we don't have a
> > permanent space yet, and that we've been doing a lot of planning
> > instead of working on projects. I'm sure we'll start seeing less talk
> > and more hacking as soon as we actually get some space to spread out
> > and tools to work with.
> >
> > Personally, I do not think that hackerspaces necessarily need to have
> > a social mission. Sometimes it's fun just to get together with friends
> > to tinker with stuff, or hold a LAN party. Some hackerspaces focus
> > more on social justice and alternative communities. Some focus more on
> > incubating ideas to commercialize them. Some focus on art and
> > technology. And some just want to play with Legos. It's all good!
> >
> > That said - yes, some of the people involved in SudoRoom are very
> > passionate about social justice issues, and I would expect we'll see
> > some projects along those lines - whether it's designing web spaces
> > for Occupy, or hacking cell phones for the homeless. But I wouldn't
> > necessarily want that to *define* the space. If someone wants to work
> > on some hacks for a better world - great! If someone wants to do some
> > synthetic biology and create an E. coli that blinks, I think that
> > should be OK too.
> >
> > Patrik
> >
> > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Phil <dude8604 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I decided last week to advertise the fundraiser on Reddit, in some of
> the
> >> local subreddits.  There was one response I got that I think is
> something we
> >> should discuss.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------
> >>
> >> Also, when I think Hacker Space, I think of a big (or small) space where
> >> people can come and work on projects, either by themselves but in the
> >> presence of others, or with a group. There may be some tools and stuff.
> You
> >> pay money per month for use of the space.
> >>
> >> But on Sudo Room, there is a lot about social justice and etc etc etc.
> This
> >> is great! But not what I guess I think about when I think about "hacker
> >> space", and if I were to be honest not really what I'd be interested in
> >> going to a "hacker space" for.
> >>
> >> So... what is Sudo Room really?
> >>
> >> --------------------
> >>
> >> The rest of the thread is
> >> here:
> http://www.reddit.com/r/oakland/comments/t4lex/sudo_room_a_newlyforming_east_bay_hackerspace/
> >>
> >>
> >> So it seems like most of us have political interests, which I think Sudo
> >> Room should definitely have room for, however I think to be inclusive
> >> of everyone it should be separate from the hackerspace as an
> organization.
> >> Or somehow balance the two so that people like this are interested in
> >> joining us.  What do you all think?
> >>
> >>
> >> - Phil
> >>
> >>
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