[sudoroom] **CRITICAL** Update for 2135 broadway, Oakland, CA

[Jehan Tremback]

Well we are the hackers. We will be the ones using it. The most important
part is that wherever we go, we hack in there. Aq
On Jun 2, 2012 8:53 AM, "Eddan Katz" <eddan at oaklandlocal.com> wrote:

> Regarding Tech Liminal, it was my understanding that we still wanted to
> have meetings there and that this is a temporary (6-month) initiative to
> formulate aspects of SudoRoom's identity not as easily developed from those
> meetings at Tech Liminal.
>
> Also, I think it worthwhile mentioning that the curb in front of the
> building is zoned for 2 spots for loading and unloading - this may be
> useful for setting up a way to receive donations of hardware in a spot
> easily accessible to the public.
>
>
> sent from +1(415) 728-5800
>
> On Jun 2, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan at oaklandlocal.com> wrote:
>
> I think we should put a big sign on the window of the office facing the
> street (bullet-proof, as the manager mentioned) that says:
>
> "Help us get a bigger: SudoRoom.org".
>
> With the placement of the sign along people's walk home from the BART to
> the lake - I can imagine getting our money back, renting more practical
> space in that building and then some, imho. The image of several hackers
> seen through the window trying to fit into the room will make the case
> demonstratively that we need a bigger room.
>
> For those who have seen the place, I can think of no better space that
> evokes the name - Sudo Room.
>
> [constraints are the canvas of creativity]
>
> sent from +1(415) 728-5800
>
> On Jun 1, 2012, at 5:18 PM, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> On the other hand - what do we really gain by renting a temporary 150 sq
> ft room, that we couldn't get at TechLiminal for free? Place to leave stuff
> lying around? Is 150 sq ft even big enough to fit us all?
>
> As long as Anca is happy to host us (and I think having the extra traffic
> is probably a good thing for TechLiminal) I don't see a good reason to
> spend our small amount of funds on a separate room that we don't truly need
> and that would only be a temporary fix anyway. I'd say let's spend some of
> that money on Anca, and stay at Techliminal at least until we find
> something more permanent..
>
> Also, as soon as we start paying rent on a monthly basis, we need to get
> serious about monthly paying memberships as well. But so far we haven't
> done much to make people eager to pay for a membership.
>
> Besides, if this guy really has lots of spaces and they come up for rent
> often, there really isn't any need to jump on whatever he has available
> right now. I'm sure he'll have some other spaces open next month as well.
>
> Patrik
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org> wrote:
>
>> Matt, and also Eddan & Timon - thanks for moving on this! I think this
>> could be a fantastic initial space for Sudo Room..
>>
>> Location is great, though 150 square feet is absurdly small. How big is
>> the classroom we could use?
>>
>> Overpriced for the size, imho, but the visibility we could definitely
>> work wrt outreach for the group... though with the rest of the building's
>> amenities available to us, might be a good bet.
>>
>> Would love to meet on Saturday, though would have to be early afternoon
>> for me to make it (send-off party for our yurt builder & current resident,
>> Morten, in our garden on Saturday starting around 4! email me if you'd like
>> to come :)
>>
>> Jenny
>> http://jennyryan.net
>> http://thepyre.org
>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>
>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>  "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>> -Laurie Anderson
>>
>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
>> it."
>>  -Hannah Arendt
>>
>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Eddie A Tejeda <eddie.tejeda at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Matt.. thanks for leading this. I think this is a great opportunity. If
>>> I understand this correctly, there are multiple spaces available and we can
>>> start with one and move into other ones as needed? If that's the case I
>>> think it makes perfect sense to start with the smaller space and grow as
>>> needed.
>>>
>>> I also this it's a cool location. When do you need to make the decision
>>> by?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Eddie A Tejeda
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Howdy Folks,
>>>>
>>>> We've been in search of a space. There are lots of options, and bigger,
>>>> brighter futures rest on the horizon.
>>>>
>>>> On Weds, Eddan found this listing on craigslist:
>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3036298243.html seen here:
>>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=loc:+Broadway+at+22nd+Street+Oakland+CA+US&ll=37.810827,-122.26721&spn=0.003458,0.005284&hnear=Broadway+%26+22nd+St,+Oakland,+Alameda,+California+94612&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.810651,-122267318&panoid=VXpIKY0QFTgDutXU5EfIag&cbp=12,284.7,,0,11.24<https://mapsgoogle.com/?q=loc:+Broadway+at+22nd+Street+Oakland+CA+US&ll=37.810827,-122.26721&spn=0.003458,0.005284&hnear=Broadway+%26+22nd+St,+Oakland,+Alameda,+California+94612&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.810651,-122.267318&panoid=VXpIKY0QFTgDutXU5EfIag&cbp=12,284.7,,0,11.24>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I gave George, the property manager, a call. I had seen some other
>>>> offices in his space months before, he has lots of spaces and they come up
>>>> for rent often. All month-to-month contracts, and a lease if we really want
>>>> one He said he was available today at 3pm. I showed up and Eddan and Timon
>>>> joined in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We saw three offices. I have photographs stored on a proprietary memory
>>>> device and will retrieve them ASAP upon apprehension of the proper cable.
>>>>
>>>> 1. $500 / month 350 sq ft - The LISTED ROOM - has WiFi access, on the
>>>> ground floor, outlets, lights. It is a good deal for the size, but it is
>>>> not very close to the street. One must walk through a hallway, through a
>>>> half-office, and down another hallway (all disability accessible) to get to
>>>> it. This is not bad, just a bit removed from public view.
>>>>
>>>> 2. $400 / month (no exact measure, but about 150 sq. ft). - The BOX
>>>> OFFICE (calling it that for short). Has a window, is just a few feet inside
>>>> public-facing  street-level doors in the same area as the LISTED ROOM. Also
>>>> has WiFi Access. Sits directly outside a shared building "classroom" area
>>>> available to all renters, just sign up ahead of time. If we rent the BOX
>>>> OFFICE, we can occasionally use the LISTED ROOM while it's open
>>>>
>>>> 3. $350 / month (no exact measure, but no bigger than 400 sq ft) - The
>>>> DOUBLE OFFICE is upstairs, at the very top of the entrance steps. It has
>>>> access to an unused, common "reception" area that would be available for
>>>> our usage. It has cable and wifi internet access. The DOUBLE OFFICE
>>>> includes two offices that are connected, side-by-side. The rear door has
>>>>
>>>> All rooms have access to the "classroom" area on the ground floor, just
>>>> need to sign up as described above. The building just got faster WIFI
>>>> service provided by Sonic.net installed recently. George is interested
>>>> in providing line-access to internet in all ground floor offices in the
>>>> future, we could also do this ourselves he offered.
>>>>
>>>> Also, we can potentially rent multiple of these spaces, or move from
>>>> one to other available spaces in the building at a later time.
>>>>
>>>> In order to move forward with this space (and not to lose footing), I
>>>> have a proposal:
>>>>
>>>> *Sudo Room should consider "dipping" it's toe into the BOX OFFICE
>>>> space (no. 2 above) by investing a portion of our fund-raiser funds of $200
>>>> first month (50% off for move-in), $400 obligatory for last month (which
>>>> can be july if we wish), and a redeemable $400 deposit--at a grand total of
>>>> $1,000, lasting to at least July*. This would only commit us to two
>>>> months in the space, the first month of which (June) we can sort out all
>>>> the precise governance, tax, and income issues, by consensus, in order to
>>>> move forward (remain, expand, or move) with this space and our future!
>>>>
>>>> I propose we hold a discussion on this email thread, use our other
>>>> online tools, convene an in-person meetup on Saturday (anywhere that's
>>>> available), consider all the issues and list them on the wiki, convene
>>>> briefly again on Sunday with whoever can make the "scout session" (still
>>>> on), and plan to move forward on Monday having begun due diligence to
>>>> consider if we have the blessings of our community!
>>>>
>>>> Please add notes in reply to this thread, on this pad (for anonymous
>>>> communication too): https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom and ultimately
>>>> we'll put everything on the Wiki on Saturday to sort out by Monday.
>>>>
>>>> On clarifying note: it seems to me that it would be prudent to maintain
>>>> the Sunday "scouting" event for due diligence reasons, and for future
>>>> option reasons!
>>>>
>>>> // Matt
>>>>
>>>> p.s. Note that time is crucial because other folks (including some we
>>>> bumped into while on tour) are also looking at these spaces, and with the
>>>> first of the month approaching, it is in the property manager's best
>>>> interest to move folks in soon.
>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Eddie A Tejeda
>>>
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