[sudoroom] July Rent: Inversion of a Ponzi Scheme?

[mattsenate@gmail.com]

Eddan,

I wish we were in a better position to have sorted this out before July, I am happy to kick in some cash, and I think we could get art murmur donations easily too.

Tracy,

I'm very much interested in establishing, very soon, a way to contribute regular dues, and to take donations from people who use and appreciate sudo resources infrequently.

However, it would be smart to establish what paying dues means. To me they should carry reasonable weight and an articulated benefit to the duepayer. This of course must cherish a commitment to access and participation not contingent on funds. I believe that is hat underlies this whole governance discussion.

I plan to explain this position in more detail on wiki and with more resources! 

Join me http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Sudo_room/Governance_Structure

- Matt

----- Reply message -----
From: "Tracy Jacobs" <kinetical at comcast.net>
Date: Mon, Jul 2, 2012 5:51 pm
Subject: [sudoroom] July Rent: Inversion of a Ponzi Scheme?
To: "Eddan Katz" <eddan at oaklandlocal.com>
Cc: <sudoroom at lists.hackerspaces.org>


Sorry Eddan,

I can give you fifty dollars for July when I next see you or  by  
paypal if you prefer.  I don't understand the politics here or why we  
are not deciding to pay some dues for rent.

Tracy

Tracy
On Jul 2, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Eddan Katz wrote:

> At the decision-making in-gathering last week, it was decided not to  
> make a decision about existing Sudo Room fund-raising income to be  
> used to pay rent at 2135 Broadway, at this time. The rationale being  
> that we've had a hard enough time making a decision about how to  
> make decisions that the process should probably not be complicated  
> any further. I applaud our resilience of deliberation, but then  
> there is the matter of July rent.
>
> I would like to propose something not on behalf of Sudo Room  
> officially, but that I hope will help us accomplish our goals, at  
> this time. The rent due for July for the "Box Office" and "Orange  
> Closet" amounts to $575. Since the "box office" will be central to  
> our Art Murmur happening and the "orange closet" continues to be  
> filled in our obsolete technology drive, I wanted to ask the good  
> Sudo folk on this list to pitch in for that amount. Tracy already  
> gave me $40 last week and Marc publicly announced his willingness to  
> give me $60 on-list. I want to make sure that everyone is clear  
> about the fact that if you would like to give me money at any time,  
> you are most welcome to. I have accounts with most mobile and online  
> payment providers, if that makes it any easier.
>
> But in terms of the $575 for July rent at 2135 Broadway, I wanted to  
> continue in our straw poll practice of gauging how many people would  
> be willing to chip in. If you're willing to go in together on rent  
> for the space in July, please reply to this email with a +1 (to me  
> and/or the list). By 6pm on Friday (the start of Art Murmur), I will  
> ask these voluntary contributors to give me $575 divided by the  
> number of people willing to volunteer. Needless to say - the higher  
> the number of people contributing, the lower the contribution  
> amount. If the number of contributors results in a sum too steep for  
> any volunteer in particular, the Art Murmur event could be an  
> opportunity to draw in others to cover that amount.
>
> This contribution does not constitute membership in Sudo Room, nor  
> does it enable special voting power, the use of a shelf, or a free t- 
> shirt. I was hoping though to get some help to display a running  
> list of the names of contributors against one of the walls at 2135  
> Broadway on Friday. If someone objects to the use of this list to  
> solicit July rent for and/or to the display of the names of this  
> group on the wall, please speak up and/or use the anonymous Sudo  
> pages to voice your concerns.
>
> -Eddan
> [self-appointed exchequer]
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