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[Eddan Katz]

I'd be interested in joining up for the discussions, but Sundays may not be an ideal time. Did any of y'all take notes from your discussion that I can find at http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Kopimism? I've been trying on thinking about radical transparency as the new omniscient god(s).

I actually think Sudo Room is a fantastic forum in which to discuss Kopimism, or what have you. I've been advocating for setting up different mailing lists for more detailed discussion/planning/collaborating for the different branches of activities emerging. As with many of the other quantum energy activities at Sudo Room, we have to be able to strike a balance between everybody having the opportunity to participate in the discussion and clogging inboxes. I'm in favor of breaking out into lists, provided that Sudo Room related discussions have public archives. 

An alternative suggestion was made to adopt some customs around subject headings so that discussions can be more effectively filtered. It's half a baker's dozen for me either way. Seems like now might be a good time to try to implement at least one of these options.

My interest in learning about the tenets of Kopimism aside, I can imagine this being a topical instance of a subject about which not everyone may have the same levels of enthusiasm for an elaborate discussion that can blow up one's inbox.


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On Dec 9, 2012, at 7:40 PM, Max Klein <isalix at gmail.com> wrote:

> A thousand times Yes! Consider me a converted Kopimist.
> Andrew, there is some evidence to suggest those who "pirate" actually buy more.[1]
> See you Sunday - in proper robe/cloak attire.
> Max
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> [1] http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/apr/21/study-finds-pirates-buy-more-music
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> On 9 December 2012 17:02, Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> 
> I'm sure the sudoroom list is probably not the best forum. Maybe at our next meeting ( or before it ) we can come up with something better.
> 
> I would say the short answer to your question would be that you could, for example, sell an album online, but once someone has it, they are free to copy and share it if they want or encourage others to pay you for it. It's entirely up to them. Another example is that i could sell a book, but if someone wanted to copy it and sell it as their own that's ok because whats important is the information, not who owns it.
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> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com> wrote:
> I can't make it next Sunday, but I'd like to know more about this. In particular I am curious how, in such a system, do content creators (musicians, authors, etc) get paid for their work?
> 
> Is there a good forum for such a discussion?
> 
> -steve
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> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Jae Kwon <jkwon.work at gmail.com> wrote:
> We had a vibrant discussion of a fork of Kopimism yesterday, centered around the natural laws of information.
> 
> Next week on Sunday at 1pm we'll meet at SudoRoom to discuss future steps on how to hack society's understanding of information and "intellectual property" for a swift transformation towards internet/speech freedom and patent reform.
> 
>> Today, information is ownable. This entails a complex/costly system of statutory regulations that attempt to prohibit the transmission of information and limit our powers of free speech in order to protect the financial interests of "content owners".
>> There is a fundamentally different way, hereafter referred to as Kopimism, that is at odds with today's complex and self-defeating system of intellectual property. Kopimism is simpler, more efficient, and arguably better for everybody in the long run.
>> Kopimism is so good because it is in harmony with (and better exploits) the natural laws of reality. Information (a dual of matter) is intangible, inexhaustible, and illuminating. As matter wants to fall, information wants to be free. Kopimism takes advantage of these sacred (God given) properties of reality for the benefit of humanity.
>> We have an opportunity to introduce Kopimism to the mainstream by propagating this normative way of Kopimism that arrises from our understanding of reality. Our mission is to unite the factions and transition the world towards a society of complete information freedom through the transformation of our own way of being.
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> http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Kopimism (please edit as you wish)
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