[sudoroom] An introduction

Anthony Di Franco di.franco at gmail.com
Sat Aug 25 03:54:53 CEST 2012 

Vaguely a propos, my 3D-printing-based submission to mozilla ignite could
use your attention or support:
https://mozillaignite.org/ideas/235/
On Aug 23, 2012 3:26 PM, "Eddan Katz" <eddan at oaklandlocal.com> wrote:

> Super cool! Thanks, Miloh; Rachel.
>
> sent from +1(415) 728-5800
>
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:27 AM, rachel lyra hospodar <rachelyra at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Sudos! This is my friend Miloh from noisebridge who helped me get my
> xbee radios working when I first went there ages ago! He is super rad &
> teaches people how to solder & do hardware hacking... and also is part of
> typeamachines and I think it would be super rad to show their printers at
> art murmur.  Miloh, let's talk about if there's any volunteers we could get
> or transportation stuff we could do to help make sure it can happen!
>
> mediumreality.com
> On Aug 22, 2012 9:32 PM, "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I am at noisebridge and am talking to Miloh about typeamachines.comwhich is apparently (where have I been??) A 3d printing platform developed
>> at noisebridge that is better & cheaper than makerbots.
>>
>> He offered to bring one to art murmur and do 3d prints! I assume we are
>> into this :)
>>
>> R.
>>
>> mediumreality.com
>> On Aug 22, 2012 12:11 PM, "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all! I'm excited to host this meeting, although a head count would be
>>> good. We have a finite quantity of chairs.  I'll try to do snacks or
>>> something too. Sudo is not that far from Coyote so a 2-part meeting might
>>> be doable! I'd love to have everyone see this space to help imagine what
>>> might be possible if we got the storefront space in sudo building, and/or
>>> put in work studios into a different space.
>>>
>>> See you all at 6 on Friday.
>>>
>>> R.
>>>
>>> mediumreality.com
>>> On Aug 21, 2012 10:13 PM, "Marina Kukso" <marina.kukso at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> awesome! is 6pm too early for people? it works for me... (i will also
>>>> tentatively commit to snacks - no promises! ;))
>>>>
>>>> regarding skot, we could always swing by the space afterwards if people
>>>> will have transportation? alternately, is skot at all available on monday
>>>> nights?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> marina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical at comcast.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> This works for me on Friday too. I would like to see your shop Rachel.
>>>>>   Skot, who is exhibiting his wall piece, was talking about coming to this
>>>>> meeting.  He really wants to see the space though, he hasn't seen it.   Has
>>>>> anyone talked to Hartman?   Is he exhibiting paintings? It might be good to
>>>>> involve him in our conference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tracy, very glad to hear you're better.
>>>>>
>>>>> tomorrow evening is less good for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> friday at coyote counter collective at 6PM sounds good to me - tracy
>>>>> and anyone else, would that time work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>>  - marina
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:58 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <
>>>>> rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad to hear you are on the mend, tracy! I guess tonight was too soon
>>>>>> to get a meeting together. How do folks feel about Friday? I am working my
>>>>>> store on Friday, till 6pm close, if folks are into it we could meet there?
>>>>>> It might be fun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> R.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mediumreality.com
>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2012 4:58 PM, "Tracy Jacobs" <kinetical at comcast.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi MArina,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's probably a good idea.  I feel like I'm just coming out of a
>>>>>>> fog; I finally got prescribed antibiotics for what has been an ongoing
>>>>>>> illness for over a month.  I also am trying to meet another show deadline
>>>>>>> for September.  So, I'm afraid I am behind with other responsibilities.
>>>>>>>  Tomorrow works for me, anytime in the evening.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what would be a good day for folks who are interested in organizing
>>>>>>> art murmur stuff to meet?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is anyone available tomorrow during the day? what about friday
>>>>>>> evening (a very popular time to work on things, i know ;))? any other times?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (i know that thursday is bad for rachel, i can do tomorrow anytime
>>>>>>> except for around 6:30.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>> marina
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forgot to add, you can add to these notes here:
>>>>>>>> https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tonight's meeting was seriously rad. Thanks to everyone who
>>>>>>>>> participated. Notes below!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, please add to these notes, as much is missing! Specifically,
>>>>>>>>> no one was taking notes when we were discussing the current space and
>>>>>>>>> actively working out the budget for September.
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> -------------------------
>>>>>>>>> 8/20/12*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Attendees*: max, deno, marc, anthony, jenny, rachel, matt,
>>>>>>>>> marina, aestetix
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Announcements*:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OA Hackathon @ PLOS: saturday/sunday 8/25-8/26:
>>>>>>>>> http://oahack2012.eventbrite.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Art opening and show at coyote counter collective: saturday 8/25,
>>>>>>>>> 2-7PM: 423 40th st:
>>>>>>>>> http://coyotecounter.tumblr.com/post/29833778448/saturday-8-25-vagabondage-w-special-guests
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sewing hackspace merging with hackspace: Rachel's sewing
>>>>>>>>> collective (http://coyotecounter.tumblr.com<http://coyotecounter.tumblrcom>) has a year in her lease. She is interested in merging with a hackerspace
>>>>>>>>> at the end of her lease.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Art Murmur 9/7: live clothes-hacking, sculptures, etc. parties who
>>>>>>>>> are interested in working on the next art murmur, when should we meet? MK
>>>>>>>>> will email the list to figure out a good day to meet to plan.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Sudosuite*
>>>>>>>>> Write a program to enact our budgeting and resource allocation
>>>>>>>>> plans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - Interested parties: Jenny, Anthony, Marc, Matt, aestetix,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - Existing solutions: paypal, wepay, square, stripe, clearbon,
>>>>>>>>>    Compare to http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Software
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - See also: metalab's hackerspace OS (
>>>>>>>>>    https://github.com/fhahn/hackerspace-os#readme); labitat's
>>>>>>>>>    model (https://github.com/labitat), more:
>>>>>>>>>    http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Software
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - Feature Requirements:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - ability to take payments (strong preference to not use
>>>>>>>>>    square/paypal)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - do we want to make available publically who pay and who
>>>>>>>>>    doesn't? is the budget public (within the membership vs to the outside)?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - ability to issue receipts
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - internal economy/earmarked contributions
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - Desirable trades: your own or any other member's
>>>>>>>>>    future/current dues, member projects, keep in the pot, raising/lowering
>>>>>>>>>    dues, one time payments, recurring payments
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - track users, status of users, user history
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - direct deposit
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - tip jar?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - Ideally, this creates a sort of Kickstarter-like system for
>>>>>>>>>    Sudoers to contribute to group projects
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - Group Membership
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Federation Model*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - Rachel suggests future potential partnership w/ her
>>>>>>>>>    art/clothes-hacking co-operative workshop & store (lease ends in a year)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - DIYbio space w/ Ryan and friends
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - FixIt Clinic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rachel is nominated to "Chancellor of Punching" - She accepts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eddan: JOBS Act now open for public comments (specifically re:
>>>>>>>>> crowdfunding bill)
>>>>>>>>> -Also suggests funding August rent through soliciting
>>>>>>>>> organizational sponsorship
>>>>>>>>> --> Matt is not into this idea, thinks we need to cover our own
>>>>>>>>> costs and not do this form of sponsorship for the purpose of covering our
>>>>>>>>> basic costs
>>>>>>>>> -Concerns over 'being beholden' as well as it being too soon to
>>>>>>>>> engage in these activities
>>>>>>>>>  -Concerns that money should not be involved to be able to
>>>>>>>>> sponsor Sudo Room
>>>>>>>>> ---> Vote of Confidence page!
>>>>>>>>> -The bylaws do allow for group membership
>>>>>>>>> -Important to open up
>>>>>>>>> -Difference between, say, being sponsored by O'Reilly (Matt
>>>>>>>>> doesn't like their business model; Rachel points out that they're
>>>>>>>>> DARPA-funded) and being sponsored by DanceSafe.. and what 'sponsorship'
>>>>>>>>> entails (see 'Non-Monetary Membership', below).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SudoPAC?!
>>>>>>>>> Eddan's spoken with some District 3 representatives, suggests
>>>>>>>>> holding a debate at Sudo Room re: tech & innovation policies in Oakland.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Becoming Legit (in the eyes of the Powers That Be):
>>>>>>>>> Wednesday
>>>>>>>>> -Getting a DBA
>>>>>>>>> -Get bank account
>>>>>>>>> --> bring Proof of Existence, the DBA, and the bylaws/compact
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Non-Monetary Membership*
>>>>>>>>> "Want List" - Every member can vote on one thing they want to have
>>>>>>>>> in the space, which gets added to the group's "want list" for non-monetary
>>>>>>>>> contributions
>>>>>>>>> -Discussion of social justice wrt membership and currency valuation
>>>>>>>>> -Having time is in itself a privilege
>>>>>>>>> -One person's labor, and the time put into that labor, is not
>>>>>>>>> equivalent to another's - beyond skill/expertise is the individual's
>>>>>>>>> background/education/privilege, granting varying levels of choice,
>>>>>>>>> resources and responsibilities.
>>>>>>>>> -Let's work on creating a model that actually levels the playing
>>>>>>>>> field.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>>> http://jennyryan.net
>>>>>>>>> http://thepyre.org
>>>>>>>>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>>>>>>>>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>>>>>>  "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>>>>>>>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of
>>>>>>>>> defining it."
>>>>>>>>>  -Hannah Arendt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>>>>>>>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>>>>>>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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