[sudoroom] An introduction

rachel lyra hospodar rachelyra at gmail.com
Thu Aug 23 09:27:53 CEST 2012 

Hi Sudos! This is my friend Miloh from noisebridge who helped me get my
xbee radios working when I first went there ages ago! He is super rad &
teaches people how to solder & do hardware hacking... and also is part of
typeamachines and I think it would be super rad to show their printers at
art murmur.  Miloh, let's talk about if there's any volunteers we could get
or transportation stuff we could do to help make sure it can happen!

mediumreality.com
On Aug 22, 2012 9:32 PM, "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I am at noisebridge and am talking to Miloh about typeamachines.com which
> is apparently (where have I been??) A 3d printing platform developed at
> noisebridge that is better & cheaper than makerbots.
>
> He offered to bring one to art murmur and do 3d prints! I assume we are
> into this :)
>
> R.
>
> mediumreality.com
> On Aug 22, 2012 12:11 PM, "rachel lyra hospodar" <rachelyra at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all! I'm excited to host this meeting, although a head count would be
>> good. We have a finite quantity of chairs.  I'll try to do snacks or
>> something too. Sudo is not that far from Coyote so a 2-part meeting might
>> be doable! I'd love to have everyone see this space to help imagine what
>> might be possible if we got the storefront space in sudo building, and/or
>> put in work studios into a different space.
>>
>> See you all at 6 on Friday.
>>
>> R.
>>
>> mediumreality.com
>> On Aug 21, 2012 10:13 PM, "Marina Kukso" <marina.kukso at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> awesome! is 6pm too early for people? it works for me... (i will also
>>> tentatively commit to snacks - no promises! ;))
>>>
>>> regarding skot, we could always swing by the space afterwards if people
>>> will have transportation? alternately, is skot at all available on monday
>>> nights?
>>>
>>>
>>> marina
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical at comcast.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> This works for me on Friday too. I would like to see your shop Rachel.
>>>>   Skot, who is exhibiting his wall piece, was talking about coming to this
>>>> meeting.  He really wants to see the space though, he hasn't seen it.   Has
>>>> anyone talked to Hartman?   Is he exhibiting paintings? It might be good to
>>>> involve him in our conference.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Tracy, very glad to hear you're better.
>>>>
>>>> tomorrow evening is less good for me.
>>>>
>>>> friday at coyote counter collective at 6PM sounds good to me - tracy
>>>> and anyone else, would that time work for you?
>>>>
>>>>  - marina
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:58 PM, rachel lyra hospodar <
>>>> rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Glad to hear you are on the mend, tracy! I guess tonight was too soon
>>>>> to get a meeting together. How do folks feel about Friday? I am working my
>>>>> store on Friday, till 6pm close, if folks are into it we could meet there?
>>>>> It might be fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> R.
>>>>>
>>>>> mediumreality.com
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2012 4:58 PM, "Tracy Jacobs" <kinetical at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi MArina,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's probably a good idea.  I feel like I'm just coming out of a
>>>>>> fog; I finally got prescribed antibiotics for what has been an ongoing
>>>>>> illness for over a month.  I also am trying to meet another show deadline
>>>>>> for September.  So, I'm afraid I am behind with other responsibilities.
>>>>>>  Tomorrow works for me, anytime in the evening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what would be a good day for folks who are interested in organizing
>>>>>> art murmur stuff to meet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is anyone available tomorrow during the day? what about friday
>>>>>> evening (a very popular time to work on things, i know ;))? any other times?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (i know that thursday is bad for rachel, i can do tomorrow anytime
>>>>>> except for around 6:30.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> marina
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forgot to add, you can add to these notes here:
>>>>>>> https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tonight's meeting was seriously rad. Thanks to everyone who
>>>>>>>> participated. Notes below!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, please add to these notes, as much is missing! Specifically,
>>>>>>>> no one was taking notes when we were discussing the current space and
>>>>>>>> actively working out the budget for September.
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> -------------------------
>>>>>>>> 8/20/12*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Attendees*: max, deno, marc, anthony, jenny, rachel, matt,
>>>>>>>> marina, aestetix
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Announcements*:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OA Hackathon @ PLOS: saturday/sunday 8/25-8/26:
>>>>>>>> http://oahack2012.eventbrite.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Art opening and show at coyote counter collective: saturday 8/25,
>>>>>>>> 2-7PM: 423 40th st:
>>>>>>>> http://coyotecounter.tumblr.com/post/29833778448/saturday-8-25-vagabondage-w-special-guests
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sewing hackspace merging with hackspace: Rachel's sewing collective
>>>>>>>> (http://coyotecounter.tumblr.com <http://coyotecounter.tumblrcom>) has a year in her lease. She is interested in merging with a hackerspace
>>>>>>>> at the end of her lease.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Art Murmur 9/7: live clothes-hacking, sculptures, etc. parties who
>>>>>>>> are interested in working on the next art murmur, when should we meet? MK
>>>>>>>> will email the list to figure out a good day to meet to plan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sudosuite*
>>>>>>>> Write a program to enact our budgeting and resource allocation
>>>>>>>> plans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Interested parties: Jenny, Anthony, Marc, Matt, aestetix,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Existing solutions: paypal, wepay, square, stripe, clearbon,
>>>>>>>>    Compare to http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Software
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - See also: metalab's hackerspace OS (
>>>>>>>>    https://github.com/fhahn/hackerspace-os#readme); labitat's
>>>>>>>>    model (https://github.com/labitat), more:
>>>>>>>>    http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Software
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Feature Requirements:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - ability to take payments (strong preference to not use
>>>>>>>>    square/paypal)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - do we want to make available publically who pay and who
>>>>>>>>    doesn't? is the budget public (within the membership vs to the outside)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - ability to issue receipts
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - internal economy/earmarked contributions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Desirable trades: your own or any other member's
>>>>>>>>    future/current dues, member projects, keep in the pot, raising/lowering
>>>>>>>>    dues, one time payments, recurring payments
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - track users, status of users, user history
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - direct deposit
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - tip jar?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Ideally, this creates a sort of Kickstarter-like system for
>>>>>>>>    Sudoers to contribute to group projects
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Group Membership
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Federation Model*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Rachel suggests future potential partnership w/ her
>>>>>>>>    art/clothes-hacking co-operative workshop & store (lease ends in a year)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - DIYbio space w/ Ryan and friends
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - FixIt Clinic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rachel is nominated to "Chancellor of Punching" - She accepts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eddan: JOBS Act now open for public comments (specifically re:
>>>>>>>> crowdfunding bill)
>>>>>>>> -Also suggests funding August rent through soliciting
>>>>>>>> organizational sponsorship
>>>>>>>> --> Matt is not into this idea, thinks we need to cover our own
>>>>>>>> costs and not do this form of sponsorship for the purpose of covering our
>>>>>>>> basic costs
>>>>>>>> -Concerns over 'being beholden' as well as it being too soon to
>>>>>>>> engage in these activities
>>>>>>>>  -Concerns that money should not be involved to be able to sponsor
>>>>>>>> Sudo Room
>>>>>>>> ---> Vote of Confidence page!
>>>>>>>> -The bylaws do allow for group membership
>>>>>>>> -Important to open up
>>>>>>>> -Difference between, say, being sponsored by O'Reilly (Matt doesn't
>>>>>>>> like their business model; Rachel points out that they're DARPA-funded) and
>>>>>>>> being sponsored by DanceSafe.. and what 'sponsorship' entails (see
>>>>>>>> 'Non-Monetary Membership', below).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SudoPAC?!
>>>>>>>> Eddan's spoken with some District 3 representatives, suggests
>>>>>>>> holding a debate at Sudo Room re: tech & innovation policies in Oakland.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Becoming Legit (in the eyes of the Powers That Be):
>>>>>>>> Wednesday
>>>>>>>> -Getting a DBA
>>>>>>>> -Get bank account
>>>>>>>> --> bring Proof of Existence, the DBA, and the bylaws/compact
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Non-Monetary Membership*
>>>>>>>> "Want List" - Every member can vote on one thing they want to have
>>>>>>>> in the space, which gets added to the group's "want list" for non-monetary
>>>>>>>> contributions
>>>>>>>> -Discussion of social justice wrt membership and currency valuation
>>>>>>>> -Having time is in itself a privilege
>>>>>>>> -One person's labor, and the time put into that labor, is not
>>>>>>>> equivalent to another's - beyond skill/expertise is the individual's
>>>>>>>> background/education/privilege, granting varying levels of choice,
>>>>>>>> resources and responsibilities.
>>>>>>>> -Let's work on creating a model that actually levels the playing
>>>>>>>> field.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>> http://jennyryan.net
>>>>>>>> http://thepyre.org
>>>>>>>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>>>>>>>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>>>>>  "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>>>>>>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of
>>>>>>>> defining it."
>>>>>>>>  -Hannah Arendt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>>>>>>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>>>>>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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