[sudoroom] IMPORTANT POLL & Meetup Was Awesome

[kingjacob]

I wouldn't worry too much about #8, even the FBI internally defines the
term hacker as a good thing.

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:05 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately for us, description #8 is what the majority of people by and
> large associate with the word 'hacker'. Hence why some people have started
> using 'maker' instead to describe pretty much the same thing. Maker just
> doesn't sound as l33t though which is a problem IMO.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Paul Ivanov <pi at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>> Matthew Senate, on 2011-12-30 12:21,  wrote:
>> > p.s. poll link again: http://sudoroom.limequery.com/93385/lang-en
>>
>> Thanks for putting this together, Matt, and it was nice meeting
>> everyone else.
>>
>> As a point of information regarding our discussion on the use of
>> language when communicating with potential landlords, I filled
>> out the above survey from a cafe with wifi, and when I tried
>> clicking the link to go back to the hackerspace wiki, was greeted
>> with this message:
>>
>>    --------
>>    This site is blocked by the SonicWALL Content Filter Service.
>>
>>    URL: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Sudo_room
>>
>>    Reason for restriction: Forbidden Category "Hacking/Proxy
>>    Avoidance Systems"
>>    --------
>>
>> The public, at large, still does not understand an appropriate
>> definition for the term "hacker" - so here's the one from the
>> Jargon File (which Mark and I shamed Matt for not knowing about!
>> :) )
>>
>> hacker: n.
>> [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe]
>>
>> 1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable
>> systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most
>> users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. RFC1392,
>> the Internet Users' Glossary, usefully amplifies this as: A
>> person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the
>> internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in
>> particular.
>>
>> 2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who
>> enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming.
>>
>> 3. A person capable of appreciating hack value.
>>
>> 4. A person who is good at programming quickly.
>>
>> 5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does
>> work using it or on it; as in ‘a Unix hacker’. (Definitions 1
>> through 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.)
>>
>> 6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy
>> hacker, for example.
>>
>> 7. One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively
>> overcoming or circumventing limitations.
>>
>> 8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to discover
>> sensitive information by poking around. Hence password hacker,
>> network hacker. The correct term for this sense is cracker.
>>
>> The term ‘hacker’ also tends to connote membership in the global
>> community defined by the net (see the network. For discussion of
>> some of the basics of this culture, see the How To Become A
>> Hacker FAQ. It also implies that the person described is seen to
>> subscribe to some version of the hacker ethic (see hacker ethic).
>>
>> It is better to be described as a hacker by others than to
>> describe oneself that way. Hackers consider themselves something
>> of an elite (a meritocracy based on ability), though one to which
>> new members are gladly welcome. There is thus a certain ego
>> satisfaction to be had in identifying yourself as a hacker (but
>> if you claim to be one and are not, you'll quickly be labeled
>> bogus). See also geek, wannabee.
>>
>> This term seems to have been first adopted as a badge in the
>> 1960s by the hacker culture surrounding TMRC and the MIT AI Lab.
>> We have a report that it was used in a sense close to this
>> entry's by teenage radio hams and electronics tinkerers in the
>> mid-1950s.
>>
>> http://catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html
>>
>> best,
>> --
>> Paul Ivanov
>> http://pirsquared.org | GPG/PGP key id: 0x0F3E28F7
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