[SpaceProgram] We’ve Already Passed the Tipping Point for Orbital Debris - IEEE Spectrum

cole santos cksantos85 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 5 06:35:28 CEST 2012


Poo is mostly water and will volitize relatively soon. Anything not
volitile will become extreamely light weightn when it cooks in the sun.
On Oct 3, 2012 8:07 AM, "Lee von Kraus" <leevonk at gmail.com> wrote:

> I liked the poo cannon too but I just realized that since it would take
> more than one poo to eject each piece of space junk, you would get rid of
> the metal junk but would be left with a lot more pieces of frozen poo
> flying around, a potentially more dangerous situation, right?....
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Jerry Isdale <jerry at mauimakers.com> wrote:
>
>> I love the idea of trash cannons!
>>
>> And do check on PsyTek's links to the USAF Space Fence.
>> One of the main purposes for the Maui astro observatories and
>> supercomputing center is space debris tracking.
>> They have some science-y scopes up there, but original DARPA funding was
>> for debris tracking.
>> One project they have is a laser satellite tracker/measurement system
>> where they bounce a laser off sats to get high res distance measurements.
>> hmm, maybe I can interest some of their techs in our program.
>>
>> Jerry Isdale
>> http://MauiMakers.com
>> http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2012, at 5:21 AM, Matt Johnson wrote:
>>
>> > Cole, can you imagine the reaction when an obsolete Russian military
>> > satellite is taken down by a frozen turd from the ISS. The diplomatic
>> > repercussions would be huge.
>> >
>> > The idea is amusing though.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matt Johnson
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:19 AM, cole santos <cksantos85 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Space based ablation with a laser would be best. Small bursts of an
>> >> extremely high powered laser would vaporize one side creating a small
>> amount
>> >> of thrust, if fired repetitively it would deorbit the object
>> eventually.
>> >>
>> >> On the other side of things waste from the iss could be ejected as
>> >> projectiles frozen into optimal shapes for pushing objects. Toilet to
>> >> ice-cube maker, to canada arm mounted with steam powered cannon.
>> Projectiles
>> >> impact objects over and over until they deorbit.
>> >>
>> >> Anything large should be sent to the local hackerspace in that orbit...
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Matt Johnson <railmeat at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The BBC has a report of another idea for capturing space debris. It is
>> >>> to harpoon old satellites and drag them down:
>> >>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19803461. This seems
>> >>> like an idea that might be testable on a small scale. Perhaps it is
>> >>> relevant to SpaceGAMBIT.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Matt Johnson
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Matt Johnson <railmeat at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>> I think the typical human behavior has been to move on to a new area
>> >>>> once one becomes polluted. I am not sure how that would work in near
>> >>>> earth orbit.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Here is an article from 2/12 about a Swiss university effort to use a
>> >>>> picosatellite to remove an older picosatellite:
>> >>>> http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2032/1 This is an 11 million
>> >>>> dollar effort so a bit too expensive for SpaceGAMBIT, but it is an
>> >>>> interesting and useful idea and a lot cheaper then most things in
>> >>>> space.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Matt Johnson
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Jerry Isdale <isdale at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> http://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/satellites/weve-already-passed-the-tipping-point-for-orbital-debris
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Interesting article from IEEE - although we are not seeing the major
>> >>>>> fallout
>> >>>>> from this overpopulation yet, the effects will rise as time goes on.
>> >>>>> Perhaps some of our (SpaceGAMBIT) relatively near term effort could
>> be
>> >>>>> on
>> >>>>> addressing this problem.  We need to clean up our local area before
>> we
>> >>>>> go
>> >>>>> off trashing the rest of the solar system, and galaxy!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Jerry Isdale
>> >>>>> isdale at gmail.com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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