[SpaceProgram] We’ve Already Passed the Tipping Point for Orbital Debris - IEEE Spectrum

Psy Tek psytek at alphaonelabs.com
Wed Oct 3 17:41:12 CEST 2012


Here is the full site version
http://dvice.com/archives/2012/09/usaf-junk-track.php

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 10:39 AM, <psytek at alphaonelabs.com> wrote:

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> http://nbcu.mo2do.net/s/18488/29?homePageId=8690307&itemId=tag%3Advice.com%2C2012%3A%2F%2F3.91555&fullPageUrl=archives%2F2012%2F09%2Fusaf-junk-track.php
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> On Oct 3, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Lee von Kraus <leevonk at gmail.com> wrote:
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> those are pretty cool ideas
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> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:19 AM, cole santos <cksantos85 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Space based ablation with a laser would be best. Small bursts of
>> an extremely high powered laser would vaporize one side creating a small
>> amount of thrust, if fired repetitively it would deorbit the object
>> eventually.
>>
>> On the other side of things waste from the iss could be ejected as
>> projectiles frozen into optimal shapes
>> for pushing objects. Toilet to ice-cube maker, to canada arm mounted with
>> steam powered cannon. Projectiles impact objects over and over until they
>> deorbit.
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>> Anything large should be sent to the local hackerspace in that orbit...
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>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Matt Johnson <railmeat at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> The BBC has a report of another idea for capturing space debris. It is
>>> to harpoon old satellites and drag them down:
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19803461. This seems
>>> like an idea that might be testable on a small scale. Perhaps it is
>>> relevant to SpaceGAMBIT.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matt Johnson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Matt Johnson <railmeat at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I think the typical human behavior has been to move on to a new area
>>> > once one becomes polluted. I am not sure how that would work in near
>>> > earth orbit.
>>> >
>>> > Here is an article from 2/12 about a Swiss university effort to use a
>>> > picosatellite to remove an older picosatellite:
>>> > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2032/1 This is an 11 million
>>> > dollar effort so a bit too expensive for SpaceGAMBIT, but it is an
>>> > interesting and useful idea and a lot cheaper then most things in
>>> > space.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Matt Johnson
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Jerry Isdale <isdale at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> http://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/satellites/weve-already-passed-the-tipping-point-for-orbital-debris
>>> >>
>>> >> Interesting article from IEEE - although we are not seeing the major
>>> fallout
>>> >> from this overpopulation yet, the effects will rise as time goes on.
>>> >> Perhaps some of our (SpaceGAMBIT) relatively near term effort could
>>> be on
>>> >> addressing this problem.  We need to clean up our local area before
>>> we go
>>> >> off trashing the rest of the solar system, and galaxy!
>>> >>
>>> >> Jerry Isdale
>>> >> isdale at gmail.com
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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