[SpaceProgram] Revising costs

[cole santos]

I think that if we are going to select directors, that we should
change the document from living expenses to salary. The total numbers
don't have to change, but calling it living expenses and then
itemizing them into food etc seems a bit weird.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Alex Cureton-Griffiths
<alexcg at gmail.com> wrote:
> So, if it's the case that the directors haven't been selected yet, can
> anyone see any issues with tweaking the roles? Admittedly my cost
> reduction in terms of staff costs/travel didn't save much, but there
> may be other ways we can tweak the roles to reduce costs
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:22 AM, cole santos <cksantos85 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ya thats fine I just didnt want to piss anyone off lol
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Ricky Ng-Adam <rngadam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Have they been selected? I thought we had changed the proposal to leave the
>>> nomination and selection to the organization. in addition to renewal periods
>>> every few months. I think it's a fair and more democratic process.
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2012 2:16 AM, "cole santos" <cksantos85 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The original proposal relies on a traveling co-administrators, and
>>>> they have already been chosen. I think that is an important part of
>>>> the whole proposal. Now I also think that some hackerspaces may be
>>>> able to provide lodging ala couch surfer once in a while if conditions
>>>> and personalities permit, but we should not rely on that and it should
>>>> be included in the budget and we should do our best not to spend it.
>>>> But ultimately I think that decision is up to the originally proposed
>>>> co-administrators.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Alex Cureton-Griffiths <alexcg at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I've been having some thoughts on the costs of the project. i made a
>>>> > copy of the spreadsheet here with some changes.
>>>> >
>>>> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj7iWk0I7Jh8dC1Lc043cktCUnJlSFVNQkdFVTFYbkE
>>>> >
>>>> > Changes include:
>>>> > * Switching GM to be more stationary, less traveling position. (since
>>>> > one way to keep costs down is just have one director travel. Note:
>>>> > I've just done that bit as a thought exercise, and am not pushing for
>>>> > it).
>>>> > * Reducing consulting costs (e.g. 500 USD every month for graphic
>>>> > design seems excessive to me)
>>>> > * Removing events (since we have option of doing them online)
>>>> >
>>>> > Also, I reference the staff costs spreadsheet. I made that myself and
>>>> > it rejigs cost for GM/community manager. That sheet's at:
>>>> >
>>>> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj7iWk0I7Jh8dG1Mblh4U0lXd2p5bl9yZUhfU0pVVGc
>>>> >
>>>> > As a result of the changes I've pushed allocation for projects to just
>>>> > over 35k per project (from 30k originally)
>>>> >
>>>> > Stuff I'm not sure about:
>>>> > * IT costs
>>>> > * Rent - if GM doesn't travel, rent would depend where they live. I
>>>> > have no idea about US rentals (where I would envision GM being based
>>>> > due to hackerspace density in the US)
>>>> > * Other consulting costs
>>>> >
>>>> > Also, who put the costs spreadsheet together originally? Then I'll
>>>> > know who I can direct questions to
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