[foodhackingbase] 31c3 preparations - crowdsourcing campaign timing, suggestions

Fri Nov 28 13:14:40 CET 2014

Hi Marcel and all,
I don't think I've used the "double-side-coated 'stucloper'" before but 
it sounds great to me. If you think this will work than that would be a 
great saver, also for the summer camp. I do wonder if it is slippery 
when it gets wet, any ideas? It's basically polyethylene (PE) right? 
I've found some info in Dutch so ...

I've coppied your previous email below and commented as ###, sorry for 
the delay, hope it is OK, nothing personal there I beleive. I don't know 
why but my yahoo email rejects sending emails to hackerspaces discuss 
and fhb discuss ...

Sincerely,

FAA

Hi,

I remember many boxes of cutlery, waterboiler etc going on tour with 
you, possibly ending up with your parents. Will this arrive at 31c3 or 
are we starting with a blank collection?

### They are indeed "sleeping beautifully" in the atics in parents 
place, I'm sure they will be happy to be "evoken" for 31c3.

I'm asking this because I saw some nice 4-knife sets marked down to 3 
euro, having 2 or 3 would not hurt for workshops.

### I'm not sure how much we cutlery we have been left with after the 
toor, I would guess around 20 pieces of forks, knifes, spoons and metal 
chopstics. One option is to buy some second hand in Dutch/German shops, 
in that way we would keep that "lovely variety of stock" which we 
planted for years :-) No serriously any cutlery extra is welcome.

Will we be using your paypal or mine? Mine is no problem as usual.

### Your PayPal for the campaign would be lovely, my is out of order 
with over 350 EU from the last campaign which I did not managed to get 
out of them for nearly a year.

Will you be doing cheese tasting? I want to do a whiskey tasting, Lotte 
as well. I want to serve haggis, smoked salmon marinated in lagavulin 
etc.

### Cheestasting has to be done, many people expected and I would brake 
in tears if I misse it because I'm on a strickt "no cheese diet" in 
Korea for nearly a year. Any tasting sound good, we need to plan the 
events and put them on the schedule and here is the problem. The orga 
still did not activated the "self organized sessions" so I'm thinking 
now where can we start to put the info together in media wiki format and 
easily transfer it to the 31c3 wiki later on. We need this for the 
crowdsourcing campaign so people see what we are after. I think we 
should use our FHB wikies, what do you think? Some tag which would 
specify that it is 31c3 related would be lovely.

I could see the whiskey tasting requirements being either bring at least 
half a bottle of something interesting, or, buy a seat for 15 euro on 
kickstarter. (I'm bringing some lagavulin for marinating, a half-bottle 
of bruichladdich, and the remains of a cask-strength 1995 caol ila; and 
I'll try to source the haggis from Marks & Spencer today)

### Best of luck with whiskeys, love to see it happen but count me out 
please, not my poisen (if you come across some good rum or cognac, well 
that is different story :-)).

Also the homebrew evening was great, I hope it can get a spot on the 
agenda

### Have already send the word to Arnd to remind him and will contact 
others - Ingo, Steffen, Martin and many others, this was very nice and 
popular event. Before I forget there is a "heaven" in Hamburg for 
brewers, special community of brewers formed by one brewer (will share 
details soon) who we met last year. He is man with decades of experience 
and brewing/fermenting is his passion, I want to get him in to give a 
special workshop, talk or tasting it is worth of it. We should also 
visit his place it is amazing!

And there could be coffee for the whole event 10 euro, a jar of kimchi 5 
euro, 4 powerdrinks for 10 euro, etc. I can of course buy loads of jars 
at Ikea again, they were very useful last year.

### Sounds like a good rewards and options in generl, lets do it!

I will be bringing the incubator. I might fit in one sink from techinc, 
don't know about plumbing for that. It would be ideal if we had the same 
sink again.

### To be honest I think we should get some second hand sink so we have 
at least one for sure, we need it for every event. I'm not sure about 
the sink from the last year I will check it out, the one from Techinc 
may be more easy. Pleaes do bring the incubator that is crucial, I'm 
talking to Arnd about the PCB scheme, when I'm in Europe I can try to 
make some PCBS based on that design but not sure how much time will I 
have.

10x10m linoleum is going to cost a lot :( Cheapest new carpet I can find 
is 1.75 per m2. I can find scraps of vinyl for 1 euro per m2 but to get 
100m2 is not so doable. And we should source the carpet/vinyl in hamburg 
if possible...

### I think that the stucloper material which you mentioned in the last 
email is a great solution for the floor, I just hope it doesn't slip to 
much when wet, anyway things should not be wet at all around the place 
because it is dangerous - we need to stock cloths and things so we can 
keep the sink area dry.

Marcel

### Thanks a lot Marcel, we are moving forward. So it looks like that 
the PayPal account for the campaign is sorted - yours, some of the 
rewards are on + Daan's cookies from what I can remember and very 
importantly we have the option for the floor cover seems to me. We have 
to quickly decide how to sort the self-organized session because 90% of 
our activities like cheesetasting, brewing workshop etc. are suppose to 
have this tag but we can not create them because the form is not 
activated so we just talk about that which is not enough.

### OK once more thanks Marcel, what do you (and others) think about the 
suggestions/questions above?

### Thanks FAA

On 2014-11-27 22:51, Marcel van der Peijl wrote:
> My suggestion is to use double-side-coated 'stucloper' and tape it up,
> so we can cover the whole area safely for about 50 euro. You can get
> printed (juice carton misprints etc) or plain grey, blue etc.
> 
> As I said before, cheapest regular carpet is 1.75 / m2 but that may
> not be easily cleanable or dryable.
> 
> Marcel
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 2:05 PM
> To: Food Hacking Base mailing list
> Subject: [foodhackingbase] 31c3 preparations - crowdsourcing campaign
> timing,suggestions
> 
> Hi to all,
> we need to talk and coordinate for running crowdsourcing campaign for
> 31c3. I would suggest 7-14 days, starting on 1/12/2014 (so basically in
> a week) aiming on 1500 eu or bit more. We can not really postpone it,
> because it takes up to 10 business days to get access to the cash which
> we need for preparation for the event - which starts on 27/12/2014. 
> This
> time it would be really nice to have more than three people involved. I
> am thinking about the lines of preparing quite a bit of info/posts in
> advance so we have enough stuff to get attention during promoting our
> campaign. Everyone is welcome to participate, more people in more fun!
> So please start to think about it, what could you share to promote our
> activities and where with whom to share it. Evina, Mwfc, Lurwah, 
> Marcel,
> Eunha and me were involved as a "campaign" team before, adding some new
> faces would be lovely :-)
> 
> Tomorrow I would like to transfer and update list of things which we
> should get for 31c3. From the top of the head I would like to
> add/confirm: fridge, sink and linoleum (for area 10x10m). These things
> we should preferably get in advance and locally if possible but
> transport through CCC means may be possible, I will be asking about
> that. All of the stuff would be better to be used/second hand if
> possible, many of us are not big fans of buying new things if it is
> possible to avoid it, it is also cheaper.
> 
> Talk to you more tomorrow anyone feeling like joining the "organization
> fun" please welcome! We need to prepare for crowdsourcing campaign.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> FAA
> 
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> 
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> 
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