[foodhackingbase] kvasirs diary update, water kefir medium project preparation

Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck algoldor at foodhackingbase.org
Tue Jun 24 14:25:31 CEST 2014


Thanks Daniel!
I've been really busy today but tomorrow I plan to start the page on our 
wiki about the project so we can share our info there. That tip about 
the water is good and important, I wonder what are our chances to check 
the composition of the water which we are each using. I'm using 
untreated spring water from the local spring (most of the time) but my 
grains are not growing. Do you thing that you could as a previous 
customer ask the seller about bit more details of their production and 
what they think may be an issue with your grains not growing is size and 
weight?

I'll share my data tomorrow and copy here the link, to open a new 
account should be quite easy, there is a question which should be easy 
for a human knowing the fhb a little bit to answer - I will try to find 
what it is anyway, there is also second back up questions which I forgot 
...

Talk to you more tomorrow,

Sincerely,

FAA


On 2014-06-24 13:41, Daniel Kolbus wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have been working with a water kefir culture I bought from
> (http://www.culturesforhealth.com [3]) but due to an accident (the
> bottom of the glass jar fell off!) it was drastically reduced and as
> it doesn't multiply I decided to buy another culture from
> (http://stockholmnt.tictail.com [4]). With the first culture I
> followed the instructions from the seller, but the grains didn't like
> it (!) but after adding a piece of dried fruit it got better. 
> 
> When comparing recipes to find a medium that facilitates growth we
> have to bear in mind the water composition. I use tap water without
> pre-boiling it as the chlorine content is pretty low, but I don't know
> if some nutrient may lack. This could be an issue for others as well.
> 
> Let's hope we find that multiplyer culture medium/technique!
> 
> Kr
> Daniel
> 
> On Monday, June 23, 2014, Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
> <algoldor at foodhackingbase.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi to all,
>> My kvasir's diary which is my fermentation log is up to date - or
>> up to day, do check it out if you like and of course share yours if
>> you can, that would be lovely!
>> 
>> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-VSrWkLMswFZhyK5VlJhuK21xmp5amAdof1re2dds_g/edit?usp=sharing
>> [1]
>> 
>> It is still quite crude and needs a lots of improvement like
>> summaries and monthly overview etc. but well notes are taken and
>> shared, that is the first step. This update is especially due to the
>> preparation to start the "project" of the development of proper
>> water kefir medium - so the culture/grains grows well and resulting
>> brew tastes good. I hope to make a page on our wiki as a proposal
>> for this project sharing my "cleaned up data" on the topic there
>> tomorrow or day after tomorrow. So who ever is into water kefir
>> please get ready and in touch now is the time! I know that at least
>> Ingo, Daniel and me have the cultures right? Anyone else?
>> 
>> I hope to hear from you soon, this is a big one. Part of this will
>> be talking to companies/groups which are selling the grains because
>> they have the formula most likely and it is very probable that there
>> will be several of the "proper" formulas ... Contacting them and
>> getting info from them would speed up the things a lot I think.
>> 
>> Talk to you all soon and please get in touch soon!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> FAA
>> 
>> --
>> Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>> 
>> biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker
>> 
>> http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org [2]
>> 
>> "There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand
>> Gandhi
>> 
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> 
> 
> Links:
> ------
> [1]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-VSrWkLMswFZhyK5VlJhuK21xmp5amAdof1re2dds_g/edit?usp=sharing
> [2] http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org
> [3] http://www.culturesforhealth.com
> [4] http://stockholmnt.tictail.com

-- 
Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck

biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker

http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org

"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi


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