[Foodhacking_at_camp] discussion about food hacking base sill open

Frantisek Apfelbeck algoldor at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 11 07:24:25 CEST 2011 

I will get back to your message soon. For me it's just fine if you bring your 
own ingredients or part of it as you prefer. However it would be very handy if 
the results of the workshops could be used for the catering for the hackers on 
the plain. As we say in Czech it would be "two flies by one hit". Maybe the best 
would be to cover the ingredients which you need through the general budget, 
coordinate your shopping (so you may also bring some other ingredients needed 
for another workshops/dishes), get the bills and they will be reimbursed. The 
product can be stored in the facilities which are going to be dedicated for that 
purpose, that. In that way you could get what you need, it would be covered, we 
will have food on the table done by lots of hackers and you will have a good 
opportunity to get donations for your project which I would recommend strongly 
promote before and during with collection can in your hand and smiling broadly 
:-))) 


I'm for example going to collect money for my journey to Japan where I want to 
help with a rebuild/reconstruction after the tsunami disaster, preferably in a 
food hacking way. Later on I want to live in Japan for a while and study their 
way of fermenting. I'll be looking for around $1600 to start, I got around $900 
already. That is part of my story.

Anyway will get back to you soon, this is also my first CCC camp so I'm sure 
that there will be a lots of space for improvement :-))

Sincerely,

Frantisek




----- Original Message ----
From: mAcfreAk <macfreak109 at gmail.com>
To: Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com>
Cc: Food Hacking at Camp 2011 <foodhacking_at_camp at lists.hackerspaces.org>
Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 10:14:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Foodhacking_at_camp] discussion about food hacking base sill open

Hey Frantisek,


On 10 juin 2011, at 14:18, Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi mAcfreAk,
> 
> Thanks for the action! 

Sure thing ;-)

> Concerning the pricing. I would like to do it in the way that the output of the 
>
> workshops will be put on the buffet style of catering, which means that the 
> ingredients will be paid by the hackers on the plane, so no expense by 
> participants here. People will be free to taste their product (hopefully not 
>eat 
>
> it all).
> 
> The other option is to ask for a small donation for the workshop, like 2-3 EU 
> per person and give them free meal from the buffet based on their choice, with 

> sushi or what ever they produce being a part of it. This option may be more 
> viable, it worked for me till now.
> 
> Concerning the people who give the workshops they will have access to the 
>buffet 
>
> and their meal for sure, I was not considering paying them extra money for 
> workshop (or paying my self, I'll do quite nice few too). However I would 
> support the options like donations towards the workshops, suggested donations, 

> entry level donation (let say 50 EU has to be put in no matter by whom for the 

> workshop to take place etc.). I think it would be cool to mention to the people 
>
> that the ingredients are for free, so they know that they give money to the 
> person who makes the workshop happen (if the ingredients are not bought by the 

> person, that is fine with me too). 

Well, for my workshop I asked 5€ for everything thus including ingredients. If I 
ask money, I'll probably use it to finance a project @ my space. I won't take 
anything out of this for myself. 


However, concerning the ingredients...as I will be coming from Hamburg*, which 
has certainly a perfectly fresh fishmarket available, where I could purchase 
ingredients for the Sushi. 

Now I'm not sure how you wanted to get the fish for the Sushi (order per day, 
local markets...?) and/or if I'm solely responsible for these purchases, but I 
could buy some @Hamburg and use the freezer we have in our camper to keep it 
fresh til workshop time. 

As this is a first for me, I'd be happy on any insights you can give me! TIA!


> I plan to do my workshops based on free donations, who wants can give money in, 
>
> nice and simple but if the person is broke, now worry. In this way I would like 
>
> to cover my ticket and travelling costs and get hopefully some money extra for 

> more projects.

Donations are fine for me...like I said, I'll probably reinvest the money 
anyhow...
> 
> So what do you think? I hope it is OK with you that I posted to the group, 
> because these are important questions to answer, so lets work on it.

The more the merrier...:-) what do others think? How's your workshop gonna be 
financed?

> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Frantisek
> 
> PS I'll create a post on the wiki concerning the donation scenarios so it is 
> more easily accessible. 

Great!

Cheers!

mAcfreAk.

*we are doing a roadtrip from LU to CCC starting from August 6. That's how we 
will visit several spaces and places including Hamburg. 

> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: mAcfreAk <macfreak109 at gmail.com>
> To: Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 5:33:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Foodhacking_at_camp] discussion about food hacking base sill 
open
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I just added my Sushi proposal : http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/Sushi
> What about pricing? Will food workshops run on paying sth or will they be free 

> (as in beer)?
> 
> mAcfreAk, LU
> -------------------------------------
> Sent from my free iPad ;-P
> 
> On 9 juin 2011, at 23:25, Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi to All!
>> Well I'm still waiting on some discussion about the workshop, which one to do, 
>
> 
>> how to do them etc. I'm going to post the kombucha and other probiotic drinks 

>> workshops which I'm going to lead within next few days, so you may take it as a 
>>
>> 
>> template.
>> 
>> Please note that there is a plenty of space for equipment and ingredients 
>> selection but we should have make up our mind before the end of June so our 
>> contacts in Germany have enough time to sort it out.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Frantisek
>> 
>> http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/wiki/index.php/Food_Hacking_Base
>> 
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