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    <p>Hi Nate,<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/09/2023 23:36, Nathaniel Bezanson
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          class="msg self"><span class="from">Hi all,</span><br>
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          <span dir="auto" class="content">I'm putting together a
            presentation to welcome</span></div>
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    <p>would you please share back your presentation? <br>
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    <p><span dir="auto" class="content"></span>> <span dir="auto"
        class="content">a move by then-East-Germany to allocate a
        fraction of state-owned buildings to culture, before turning
        > everything loose in a market</span><span class="from"><span
          aria-hidden="true" class="only-copy"> </span></span><span
        dir="auto" class="content">economy, as the reason C-base exists
        how and where it does. Where can I > learn more about this
        legislation/allocation? <br>
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    <p><span dir="auto" class="content"><br>
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    <p><span dir="auto" class="content">In Dutch history, there is a
        connection between squatters movement/legislation & early
        hackerspaces (before they were called that way) , and also a
        connection between other counter-cultures movements &
        hackers (hippies, anarchists...) <br>
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    <p><span dir="auto" class="content"><br>
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    <p><span dir="auto" class="content">Dorien Zadbergen wrote about the
        digital activism of the two hackergroups ASCII and the
        Genderchangers in Amsterdam squats.<br>
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    <p><span dir="auto" class="content">In Dutch:
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://dorienzandbergen.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/scriptie1.pdf">https://dorienzandbergen.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/scriptie1.pdf</a></span></p>
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    <p><span dir="auto" class="content"><span dir="auto" class="content">Dorien
          Zadbergen also wrote about </span>hackers & Silicon
        Valley:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://dorienzandbergen.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/dissertation_zandbergen_updated1.pdf">https://dorienzandbergen.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/dissertation_zandbergen_updated1.pdf</a></span></p>
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    <p>Plus, there is a movie about Hippies From Hell: <br>
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    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://dangerousminds.net/comments/hippies_from_hell">https://dangerousminds.net/comments/hippies_from_hell</a></p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hippies.waag.org">http://hippies.waag.org</a> <br>
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    <p><span dir="auto" class="content">I have collected many links
        about hackerspaces here: <br>
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    <p><span dir="auto" class="content"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.techinc.nl/Hackers_tribes#About_hackerspaces">https://wiki.techinc.nl/Hackers_tribes#About_hackerspaces</a><br>
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        If there are other good overview resources that go over the
        pre-2009 (I think the Wired article marks an epoch) history, I'm
        all ears for those as well. I ran across Monochrom's "hacking
        the spaces" but it's a little light on details.<br>
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    <p>I wrote  about European hackerspaces I was visiting while
      organising "hackerspace tours" <br>
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    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://labs.ripe.net/Members/becha/six-years-of-hackerspaces-tours-during-ripe-meetings">https://labs.ripe.net/Members/becha/six-years-of-hackerspaces-tours-during-ripe-meetings</a></p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.techinc.nl/Hackerspaces_tour">https://wiki.techinc.nl/Hackerspaces_tour</a></p>
    <p>And about differences between East-Europe & West-Europe
      hackerspaces... <br>
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    <p>And then there are more  articles about Detroit & hackers ;-)
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      <li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Five ways hackers can build
        better cities -- from -- World Economic Forum in Davos ! <br>
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    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2014/07/five-ways-hackers-build-better-city/">https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2014/07/five-ways-hackers-build-better-city/</a><br>
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    <p>And I am copying Patrice, who is a living legend & an
      unofficial historian of hackers movement... who might be able to
      add some more wisdom about the early days. <br>
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    <p>Regards,</p>
    <p>Vesna</p>
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