[hackerspaces] Minutes of hackerspaces.org meetup of 2020/05/08

Bastiaan van den Berg buzz at nurdspace.nl
Fri May 8 19:10:58 CEST 2020


Here for all to see, original pad was at https://pads.ccc.de/pMy75PdxaW


Agenda
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1. Census Bot
2. When is an entity a hackerspace that should be listed on HSo?
3. Modality of next meeting
4. wiki stuff


START: 2020-05-08 14:15 UTC

ATTENDEES: zeno4ever, bronsen, buZz, webmind, <perhaps put your name here
if you want>
"->" means some sort of conclusion or decision

1. census bot
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Hackerspace Census
if space no active and no mail, close or manual

-> The bot checks weekly for pages that have not been updated in 12 months.
-> It uses certain criteria to determine how to flag those pages.
  - Criteria so far: calendar entries, rss, social media, and more
-> Present
  - One flag is added by a hidden text, so the bot won't run again for 12
months.
  - Currently it also changes the "status" to _closed_ when certain
criteria are met.
-> Future changes
  - The bot will create log pages in the HSo wiki in a dedicated namespace
  - Instead of setting "status" to _closed_, it will set it to
_suspected_inactive_ (human editors can then filter for such pages and
manually set an appriate status)
  - The bot will use its own account for such edits.
  - Bot will add pages to a category, for humans to check


2. When is an entity a hackerspace that should be listed on HSo?
================================================================
What is a hackerspace. Are we ok with commercial companies (ponoko) to use
hs.org?

Criteria for a hackerspace are :

-> Idea: spaces should pass all of the exclusion criteria and meet some of
the inclusion criteria
-> Exclusion
  - no purely commercial entities on HSo
  - providing office or workspace for rent and nothing else
-> Inclusion
  - non-profit status
  - community-oriented, for example by and for hackers
  - has members (as opposed to visitors or employees only)
  - meet at their own space (could also have shared bits, but something to
call from the community)
-> these criteria should be displayed on the creation page


3. Modality of next meeting
===========================
- Should we try to move to some other technology than IRC?
-> there does not seem to be a desire to move away from IRC, the next
meetup will happen on 2020-06-08 14:00 UTC in IRC again.

- Should we try to move to e.g. jitsi (
https://jitsi.nluug.nl/Hackerspaces.org) or bigbleubutton?


4. wiki stuff
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Template :
add github?
add telegram / matrix ?
add type of space (fablab / hackerspace / makerspace / coworking space /
other) default to hackerspace for all entries if possible
add wheelchairaccessibilty

-> zeno4ever and buzz will update the templates to add suggested fields and
'type of space'

Edit wiki page
- preview, edit with form - captcha? (normal edit already has a sorta
captcha , https://i.imgur.com/wSVlgoX.png )

Wiki general
-> thumbnails / images broken? (g5pw was notified, and still needs to look
at it)
many 504 messages, implement monitor system? (like PRTG)



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END: 2020-05-08 16:32 UTC


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buZz
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