[hackerspaces] Makerspaces

Shirley Hicks shirley at velochicdesign.com
Mon Jun 27 00:54:50 CEST 2016


So would I. 
- Shirley

> On Jun 26, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Russell Fair <rfair404 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I would be very interested in some notes from ISTE re: makerspaces. Please & thank you!
> 
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Kyle Muir <kyle at fuzeinteractive.io <mailto:kyle at fuzeinteractive.io>> wrote:
> I am headed to ISTE in Denver today. There are a number of lectures and workshops on this topic I plan to attend. 
> 
> Will anyone else be attending or like notes to be shared?
> 
> Kyle 
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>    1. US hackerspace and makerspaces - safety practices in      risky
>       neighborhoods (Shirley Hicks)
>    2. Re: US hackerspace and makerspaces - safety practices in
>       risky neighborhoods (Arclight)
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> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 09:43:52 -0500
> From: Shirley Hicks <shirley at velochicdesign.com <>>
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> Subject: [hackerspaces] US hackerspace and makerspaces - safety
>         practices in    risky neighborhoods
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> Hey everyone,
> 
> For a whole bunch of reasons, we’re having to push through and complete safety and security protocols for our makerspace.
> The thing we need to address is very US-centric, that of having taken a low(er) rent space in a neighborhood with crime problems and needing to beef up security and safety practices as a result.
> 
> We have a good crew in charge of this at our makerspace, but we now need to get a formal process in place for our membership so that we capture _all_ incidents. (we’re working with our city police and administration to improve safety in the area).
> 
> Am wondering if you would be willing to share your practices at your makerspace. Also, if you have linked material or docs, would you be willing to share that as well?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Shirley Hicks
> Red Mountain Makers
> Birmingham, AL
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> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 23:14:11 -0700
> From: Arclight <arclight at gmail.com <>>
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> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] US hackerspace and makerspaces - safety
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> I don't think this is a strictly US problem.  Other folks from Europe
> and Latin America have told me stories about the dodgy spaces they
> rent due to affordability.
> 
> In any case, we don't have a "safety manual," but we do have a few
> core principals.  Our place is located in an industrial area 2 blocks
> from a methadone clinic and a downtown with a large homeless
> population. It's not gangland or especially dangerous, but common
> sense must be observed.
> 
> 1.  Lock it or lose it!  Don't store anything outside that you don't
> want stolen.  It could be fine for weeks, but it's bad practice,
> serves as an attractor to scumbags, and often ends in lots of crying.
> This applies to materials, bikes, large tools, etc.
> 
> 2. The space gets locked when not open, 100% of the time, no
> exceptions.  Make the workflow of your access system encourage this
> practice by making "door stays unlocked' an explicit mode that is not
> the default after the first person comes in, and setting a nightly
> timeout to relock everything if forgotten.
> 
> 3.  Use cameras and alarm functionality the right way.  I'll say it
> now:  Cameras do very little to prevent crime.  We have a visible
> camera right over the dumpster, and it has never stopped the taggers
> or the phantom pooper.  And unless you have a very high quality (i.e.
> 1MP or above with good low-light and appropriate optics), you'll just
> have a bunch of blurry pictures of people stealing your stuff.
> 
> And if you have a monitored alarm, you're also not using it right if
> you have repeated false alarms.
> 
> The right way:  Use cameras as a way of verifying who is at the door,
> or verifying what is going on in real-time should your alarm go off.
> Cops will be more likely to respond if you have a video-verified alarm
> than the typical "something may or may not have happened" telemetry.
> 
> Regarding the alarm system itself, we have a self-monitored system,
> and have made it very easy for people to arm it and lock up when
> leaving.  (You just enter '1's until it starts the 30 second
> countdown, or chirps an error if you left a door open).
> 
> We also make it easy to disarm - something like "the act of badging in
> also disarms the alarm" is a good way to prevent falses and make the
> 5+ people callout list that gets SMS'd in the event of an alarm
> immediately jump up and check the cameras.
> 
> Yes, you can go into endless "what if the attackers jammed cell
> service, cut the wires, and took advantage of the fact that MD5 is an
> outdated hashing algorithm" scenarios.  The truth is, you're trying to
> protect your assets from a bunch of thieves parking a moving truck in
> your loading dock and stripping the place while everyone is at DEFCON,
> or the odd "smash and grab" druggie from the alley.
> 
> 4.  Make it look like there is nothing to steal.  No laptops, camera
> bags, etc should be sitting on your car seat.   Don't make it look
> from the outside like it's a weed grow, a computer shop or anything
> with cash or retail goods.  Be forgettable.
> 
> 5. If you see people that don't belong to your group milling around,
> engage them.  When we do this, we either end up inviting them in or
> they quickly find out this isn't the place to go to "just use the
> bathroom" for 2 hours...
> 
> 6.  The best defense is having people there a lot and at unpredictable
> times.  In most hacker spaces, there is not "safe" time a person could
> break in and be assured of it being unoccupied.  This ain't Starbucks.
> You can also maintain a presence if you have an active chat room/IRC
> channel and a webcam.  You can even set up the webcam to be disabled
> if the space is unoccupied/alarm is armed.  That is a personal choice.
> Some folks actually like turning on a webcam and being logged in to
> chat if they are working alone - it's like having someone keeping an
> eye on you if you get hurt/etc.
> 
> 7.  The last thing: If you need someone to leave, ask them to leave
> clearly and unambiguously.  No passive-aggressive games.  If they are
> aggressive, crazy and/or otherwise won't leave, call the police.  All
> of the local businesses here have the direct number to the PD taped to
> the counter for a reason.  Some spaces have a "No cops, EVAH!" policy.
> The bottom line is that they are a resource you occasionally need,
> warts and all.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Arclight
> 
> 
> We've have neighbors get broken into, but our space has never been targeted.
> 
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 7:43 AM, Shirley Hicks
> <shirley at velochicdesign.com <>> wrote:
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > For a whole bunch of reasons, we’re having to push through and complete safety and security protocols for our makerspace.
> > The thing we need to address is very US-centric, that of having taken a low(er) rent space in a neighborhood with crime problems and needing to beef up security and safety practices as a result.
> >
> > We have a good crew in charge of this at our makerspace, but we now need to get a formal process in place for our membership so that we capture _all_ incidents. (we’re working with our city police and administration to improve safety in the area).
> >
> > Am wondering if you would be willing to share your practices at your makerspace. Also, if you have linked material or docs, would you be willing to share that as well?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Shirley Hicks
> > Red Mountain Makers
> > Birmingham, AL
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