[hackerspaces] Member penalties

Robert Davidson robert at dallasmakerspace.org
Mon Feb 23 16:39:38 CET 2015

@ Dallas Makerspace

This is what we are doing

We are approaching 700 members

A couple key components

   1. Clear Table Policy (This means when you leave a table it should be
   100% clear of anything)
   2. We have Cameras in all committee rooms (The BOD gave the committee's
   a choice if they want a camera in there room over the past couple years and
   now all of the rooms have a camera,I am not hear to argue privacy but I can
   say that for us we saw less destruction of equipment and people tend to be
   cleaner finally the admins can get 20/20 vision without having to rely on
   member accounts of what happen this makes for a safer organization.
   3. We pay a cleaning crew to come out every week on the day of open
   house to tidy up the place before the open house
   4. Strict project storage, it needs to be clear that it is not excellent
   to leave projects and tool out. (Before getting strict on this the biggest
   complaint was having to clean up after others before able to do anything

We have never tried a volunteer credit program because we wanted all
members to be on the same level.

the other concern we had is the time to manage the volunteer program would
just increase overall workload.

If anyone is able to come up with a scale-able gamification system for
volunteerism I would be extremely interested though.

Robert Davidson

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Ben Brown <ben at generik.ca> wrote:

> A hackerspace that isn't messy is probably not used much ;)
> We're approaching 70 members and we have a rotating cleaning duty roster
> in place where three members are assigned a week and an area of the
> space to tidy up. Some members can't do it because they live far away,
> but they try and help in other ways (seasonal cleaning, etc). It's not
> perfect -- sometimes things go a little longer than they should but it
> works alright. The most critical stuff (getting stanky garbage out on
> the curb) happens almost every week.
> As for abusing equipment, we haven't had experience in anything
> malicious, but things do break -- drill bits, bandsaw blades, 3D printer
> extruders. Our laser gets a huge amount of use and we're our 2nd tube in
> four years. We're fortunate enough to have a budget for equipment
> maintenance, though we don't always use it as often as we maybe should.
> We've never instituted anything like a 'volunteer credit' system in
> place. We only have one tier of membership, and we've been very
> resistant to adding discounted memberships in any way, whether it's
> other tiers or credits for work in the space. It's just makes it simple
> to predict our income (? members x $50), plus it helps promote the
> mindset that we're all on the same level, and no one has any perceived
> power over anyone else.
> We don't want to have an atmosphere of penalizing volunteers or members
> for not doing things like cleaning up, though some occasional indirect
> shaming on our mailing list has happened ;). When someone wants to join,
> we try and stress that even though everyone pays to access the space,
> there are additional 'duties' expected as part of membership, like
> helping keep the place tidy, or reporting when things break. So far, we
> haven't had a member flat out refuse to do this, perhaps partly because
> of the emphasis on those expectations in the beginning. Not to say that
> will never happen though.
> Ben
> On 2/22/2015 11:33 PM, Bob Bownes wrote:
> >
> > We are having a problem with a few members who are abusing their
> privileges. These are either our top tier members who have 24/7 access or
> some of our volunteers who are failing at their volunteer duties. In either
> case, we have members who are leaving the space a mess, or generally are
> abusing equipment.
> >
> > Like many places, our members pay a monthly membership fee. Our
> volunteers can get credit towards that fee for hours worked. Penalizing
> volunteers is easy (take away the credit or the ability to volunteer) but
> leads to fewer volunteers. Penalizing paying members is also hard.
> >
> > How are other spaces addressing this? Peer pressure alone is not solving
> the problem.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
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