[hackerspaces] Leadership abusing powers. Bullying. Extraordinary General Meetings.

[Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen]

Peter, there's nothing you can do.  That's why there's places like MIT
and why it's rather a rare place.  The world is filled with assholes
who want to hold onto their power rather than go to the end of a
branch of knowledge to see how far it goes.

Had their position been held from a point of "liberty and justice for
all", or some similarly noble point of identity, then their
stubbornness would have been reasonable and economical, but as it is,
they can't possibly be coming from such a point (otherwise they'd be
revolutionaries), and they remain, simply, weeds sticking their roots
down further with no point other than to exist for themselves.

Cheers, and drift in the wind for awhile to find where you can re-plant roots.

Marxos

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 8:19 PM, peter <phm at riseup.net> wrote:
>
> On 22/02/15 18:08, JB Zurn wrote:
>
> Even this email thread is exhausting. If I had to listen to this at an
> organization I would have quit already.
>
>
> That's the point. Nobody had to listen. If you don't like
> thinking/ideas/philosphy then don't read my posts.
>
>
> I'm sorry, I understand how it feels when people don't like you. I had few
> friends as a child. I finally figured out it was because people didn't like
> being around me. So I did 2 things 1) I stopped subjecting people to a
> situation that made them uncomfortable  (I left them alone), and 2) I slowly
> learned what of my obnoxious behaviors was upsetting them, and slowly
> changed them. Not because I was wrong, or they were wrong, but because
> making people uncomfortable is mean.
>
> If I insist on doing stuff that makes people uncomfortable, -I- am the one
> who is being mean.
>
> Food for thought.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015, 12:28 PM Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen
> <dreamingforward at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > But more importantly, it's all so unnecessary. Why were you still
>> > arguing
>> > about this in the first place, three emails later? It's such a pointless
>> > argument about a tiny objection that can't possibly have been something
>> > you
>> > cared that much about. If you had just said "sure fine whatever", the
>> > whole
>> > issue goes away.
>>
>> The reason is this:  everyone has their own little point of power upon
>> which the rest their identity.  For some, it's religion, for others
>> it's evolution.  Women know it well, because men have been
>> establishing the points of "truth" within the otherwise boundlessness
>> of (pre)existence to rest their soul on or using their strength to
>> establish it by fiat since time immemorial.  You simply didn't notice
>> the issue, presumably because your point of power is shared by a
>> million people.  The issue of using the pronoun "it" appears to be
>> (one of) Peter's.
>>
>> A better strategy for Peter though is neither silence, nor frivolous
>> rebellions to get power:  it's to prove himself more capable in the
>> arenas in which the hackerspace's mission believes.  This is good
>> advice generally, since the issue of power is ongoing.
>>
>> Marxos
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