[hackerspaces] Leadership abusing powers. Bullying. Extraordinary General Meetings.

Chris Agocs chris at agocs.org
Fri Feb 20 22:45:17 CET 2015


Cut your losses and move on.

On Fri Feb 20 2015 at 3:04:57 PM peter <phm at riseup.net> wrote:

>
> Does anyone have advice/experience with the leadership abusing their
> powers, doing unconstitutional/unethical things? (specifically: bullying
> members with mental 'abnormalities').
>
> What happened? Did anyone try to stop it? Has anyone ever called an EGM (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_general_meeting) about it?
>
> I'm attempting to do this at London Hackspace.
>
>
> Grievance Procedure Update - Peter Meadows banned for one year:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/london-hack-space/Io8vDQvaT84
>
> Notification of a second formal warning for Peter Meadows:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/london-hack-space/7WE1zuRWKbk
>
> Fwd: Re: Your first formal warning:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/london-hack-space/bDlpFC6Lg2o
>
> Fwd: Re: Your behaviour in IRC:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/london-hack-space/uNFjdFI7tmY
>
>
> Thread about my food getting chucked in the bin:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/london-hack-space/E4Gom_ave4c
>
> (I suspect this was done by a 'trustee' as revenge for me suggesting
> 'doorbot' should
> not be blaring out loud music into the space every 5 minutes. (although
> nobody has owned up to doing it, (despite other members insisting that it
> was not a mistake, and it was done with the best interests of the space at
> heart)):
>
>
> Thread in which I'm accused of 'de-humanising' the cleaner by calling it
> 'it':
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/london-hack-space/gFJpT3zPj3c
>
>
>
> I think they invented the stuff about IRL harassment because they would
> look silly banning me just for supposed 'trolling'. (I was NOT 'trolling').
>
> There is CCTV in the space, so we can determine very easily if I was
> 'following' people around. They refuse to give any details about what the
> CCTV shows.
> They refuse to give any details about the nature of the real life
> harassment. I can provide many witnesses that spent time with me day to day
> in the space, and that will testify that I have not harassed anyone.
>
> David Potocnik writes:
>
> " Anyway, I've been linked to this discussion and I can't see a very
> descriptive account of what actually happened. "Harassment" can be a number
> of things and it is also perceived/felt (right?), so I suggest being more
> expressive."
>
> And:
>
> " This is the second example of somebody being banned for other people
> finding them "annoying". With anonymity, the trustees become an
> arbiter of good taste (TM) at their own discretion, possibly backed up
> by howling wolves. Fine. I'm sure the Trustees are aware of the
> problems in both historic examples of various annoyances to
> "civility", and on the other side a modern trend in false harassment
> accusations. (Even if this is not the case here).
>
> This was actually apparent in the linked "it" email on cleaning. Peter
> was accused of "dehumanizing" (morally bad!) a cleaner. But when I
> read into it, what I saw was him/it playing an (annoying) semantic
> game: idea of doing away with normal conception of "human person". As
> I read it, this is only "insulting" if you read it through your own
> moral lens, the proper one. He/it wasn't being selectively
> "dehumanizing" either.
> For me it was an example of this person's somewhat annoying and
> non-constructive behaviour, as much as general cultural hegemony."
>
> And:
>
>  "Guys, restating, I am not - or was not - agitating on anyone's behalf.
> Related, nothing is being put "up for debate", though things are
> freely debated. (Etc. A careful reader might have found more worrying
> cues in follow up responses to my last one.)"
>
>
> Then they accuse him of 'agitating' on my behalf.
>
> So clearly anyone that speaks up in my favour is going to get bullied like
> this.
>
>
>
> They are now censoring my list posts, so I have no way to respond to the
> false allegations.
>
>
>
> London Hackspace Ltd Articles of Association:
> https://london.hackspace.org.uk/organisation/docs/articles.pdf
>
>
> https://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Organisation
>
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