[hackerspaces] Access control RFID pinpad enclosure halp

[Joshua Pritt]

I wonder if RFID signal can make it through that metal if you tape the
reader right up against the edge?
You might have to cut out a window and caulk up an acrylic window for the
RFID reader.
Test it out for science!

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:03 PM, Arclight <arclight at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's a NEMA box.  If you keep the stuff under the cover, you have
> another layer of water protection.  People just have to flip up the
> cover to use their PIN/card.
>
> Arclight
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Joshua Pritt <ramgarden at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Do you have a Lowe's or similar hardware store nearby?
> > Will something like this work?  You'd have to cut your own windows and
> seal
> > them correctly though:
> > http://goo.gl/RuyZZM
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Arclight <arclight at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'd probably just laser cut something out of 1/4" black ABS (UV
> >> resistant) and put it together with security Torx fasteners and a
> >> steel backing plate.  Alternatively, you could purchase a NEMA box
> >> with a flip-up cover at any electrical store. You could mount a heavy
> >> ABS plate inside to protect the electronics and still pass LF RFID
> >> signals.
> >>
> >> Arclight
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
> >> > Our problem is someone "hacked" the payphone by drilling through the
> >> > lock to
> >> > initially get inside because they were too lazy to ask around about a
> >> > key.
> >> > Which means to lock it now you need access to the back. To prevent
> >> > others
> >> > from accessing the back, there's the back side of another dead
> payphone
> >> > used
> >> > as a mounting plate, sandwiching the gate between it. Since the holes
> >> > aren't
> >> > threaded we did some other horrible hacks involving epoxy and nuts to
> >> > provide something to grab onto when threading the bolts in.
> >> >
> >> > All in all our setup is jank as fuck. I would like to keep the
> aesthetic
> >> > of
> >> > the payphone, but in order to not paint ourselves into a corner again
> I
> >> > believe we'll need to acquire a new one, which will take longer than
> we
> >> > want.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Rubin
> >> > rubin at starset.net
> >> >
> >> > On Dec 22, 2015 15:35, "Pete Prodoehl" <raster at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Agreed! the payphone approach is awesome... I've seen weatherproofing
> >> >> accomplished with generous applications of Silicone caulk...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Pete
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 12/22/15 5:26 PM, Derek H wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I say you should absolutely work on getting that payphone enclosure
> >> >> fixed
> >> >> up, because it's badass.
> >> >>
> >> >> For the reader,  why not just pick up an off the shelf solution
> that's
> >> >> already waterproofed? In order to find one, I first need to know your
> >> >> requirements. What type/frequency RFID cards are you already using?
> How
> >> >> are
> >> >> you connecting to your access control board? Wiegand?
> >> >>
> >> >> On Dec 22, 2015 5:21 PM, "Rubin Abdi" <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Noisebridge's trusty gutted payphone turned into an outdoor access
> >> >>> control pinpad/RFID reader has died today. After initial observation
> >> >>> it
> >> >>> seems the rain that everyone's been asking for has finally shown up
> >> >>> and
> >> >>> gotten inside the thing. We can open it up and clean it out and most
> >> >>> likely
> >> >>> get it running again, but remounting the thing is a pain and the
> >> >>> process of
> >> >>> weatherproofing it isn't going to be easy.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I am looking for one of two things...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 1. Recommendations on an affordable out door enclosure, can be
> >> >>> securely
> >> >>> attached to a gate (https://goo.gl/photos/YgMhVAGUasEtDWoB8), has a
> >> >>> weatherproof pinpad, plastic window to read RFID through, and
> >> >>> potentially
> >> >>> another window for a small display to be mounted against. Bonus
> points
> >> >>> if we
> >> >>> can order this and get it delivered soon.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 2. Such a thing as the item above, that your hacker space has a
> spare
> >> >>> of
> >> >>> and is wanting to either get rid of it or sell it to us for a
> >> >>> reasonable
> >> >>> cost.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Any help would be appreciated.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Also if you're curious how our system works...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> https://github.com/hzeller/rfid-access-control
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Rubin
> >> >>> rubin at starset.net
> >> >>>
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