[hackerspaces] membres hogging space and a lot of tables

Arclight arclight at gmail.com
Thu Nov 6 22:28:49 CET 2014


You do have to clearly articulate the rules to everyone and then
follow up. There are people who will take any resources that aren't in
use for their private use, and people who will get touchy and
butt-hurt if $thing they left in the middle of the walkway gets moved
or disturbed in any way.  This is all part of dealing with conflict -
set reasonable ground rules, issue a few warnings and make it clear
that "thrown away without warning or recourse" is ultimately a
possibility.

When something's gotta go, we put it in the "purgatory bin" where it
can still be retrieved prior to shoving everything outside at the
monthly potluck.


Arclight

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Randall Arnold
<randall.arnold at texrat.net> wrote:
> It's your space-hogging members who are actually being passive-aggressive
> here, and infringing on those who are mindful.  Time for an intervention.
> You tried asking; now tell.
>
> On November 6, 2014 at 3:15 PM Florencia Edwards <floev22 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm with you dosman that the best way would be asking them. But we've been
> asking forever, and they hog more space now. They put all of their stuff
> there like really messy and complicated so you can't just grab it or order
> it. And every day of the month they sit in the same table, so they sort of
> reserve the spot putting things on there
>
> 2014-11-06 18:11 GMT-03:00 dosman < dosman at packetsniffers.org>:
>
> Yuk, my suggestion is to avoid passive-aggressive maneuvers like this.
> Rearranging your space just to fix a social problem invites further travels
> down this path which ends in clean desk policies and efficiency specialists
> assigning taped off places for each item allowed on your desk (some sarcasm
> there in case it wasn't detected). Seriously, just directly ask the space
> hogs to be more mindful about how much space they use (tactfully of course).
> I'm sure some times during the week are higher use than others, they should
> be willing to accommodate during those times at the very least. When the
> space is in less demand they can take up all the free space if they like,
> otherwise be prepared to loose tables as they are needed.
>
> -dosman
>
> On Nov 6, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Volatile Compound wrote:
>
>> Assigned workbenches / tables / desks / whatever for supporting members.
>> Don't push them together; it encourages territorial expansion. Any of their
>> crap not on, under, or over their workspace is fair game for cannibalisation
>> or being thrown out.
>>
>> Newcomers take their chances. If they can find somewhere to work on
>> something, great, but they should keep it portable (read: able to be taken
>> home except by prior arrangement).
>>
>> And enforcing all of this is key. Kind of like how a kid won't believe
>> that you really will take the vacuum to the Legos on the floor until one of
>> them ends up in the bag, pitching out projects that have spread to every
>> corner of the room won't be taken seriously until it happens.
>>
>> - skroo.
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2014 12:49 PM, "Florencia Edwards" < floev22 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi everyone, we have this problem: some members tend to use a full table
>> for themselves, and they tend to need more and more square feet for their
>> stuff and hacks. But this means new comers have less space. Do you have a
>> technique for administrating this better?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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