[hackerspaces] Does the maker culture get the step on the hackers culture?

Torrie Fischer tdfischer at hackerbots.net
Thu Jul 3 23:54:48 CEST 2014

On Thursday, July 03, 2014 14:51:50 Al Billings wrote:
> Nah

I think there is a fair number of us participating on this list that are 
interested in real solutions and discussion. Could you be a bit more verbose 
with your disagreement? Whats your alternative?

> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Mark Janssen <dreamingforward at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> You can call it what you want, friend, but without a business plan or
> >>> a larger economic/political agenda, I call it a clubhouse, which is
> >>> spelled: D-O-O-M-E-D.
> >> 
> >> Doomed in what sense? I feel that there are many examples of successful
> >> spaces
> >> that don't have a business plan or larger agenda.
> > 
> > Yes, those spaces are generally riding, like the sfx, on "angel
> > funding" (i.e. funding that doesn't expect to get paid back but is in
> > support of the basic idea)  amidst an economic system which is highly
> > competitive.   In other words, if you're not exploiting the masses,
> > you probably can't make it economically sustainable.  There are a lot
> > of problems in America, and making stuff for pleasure without activism
> > isn't going to fix them.
> > Marxos
> > _______________________________________________
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