[hackerspaces] non-membership-fee structures, partnerships (was Re: Hackerspaces Re:Foundation (Was Re: Abuse Of Power))

David Francos me at davidfrancos.net
Mon Apr 15 09:00:34 CEST 2013

Yup, we're stuck with 30/20(for people with less resources) euros / month,
and it IS really prohibitive.
But we love our current space, wich might be a problem.
Also, almost everything that moves locally and could host us is govt
related, and we don't want to be absorved.
So, the space would not be free, and therefore the "free-space" approach is
not working for us.

Then I ask, partnerships: Have you people found any cooperation with
external companies? If so, how was it? What was needed?

We've started to move local groups (and gathered quite a few, 5 groups
already are using our hackerspace, in 4 months of "real" life), but usually
those groups are not fond of paying anything.
Also, have you tried paid courses? If so, how's it going? How have you
adapted the levels? We've made a few, and always end up with unhappy
customers because of the level differences.
Sorry for the small off-topic.

2013/4/14 Randall G. Arnold <randall.arnold at texrat.net>

> **
> > On April 13, 2013 at 7:46 PM Bryan Bishop <kanzure at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Randall G. Arnold
> > <randall.arnold at texrat.net> wrote:
> > > They seem to always be asking the question: "How do we get funding for
> such
> > > and such?" The answer always seems to be member fees. Of course
> there's a
> > > practical limit to such funding and you tend to implode quickly after
> > > reaching it.
> >
> > This is probably the wrong place to mention it, but I am a huge fan of
> > non-membership-fee structures. I am glad to hear that you found an
> > alternative that worked out in your situation. What is the exact
> > nature of the arrangement with the library?
> >
>  I'll fork the thread again.  ;)
>  We've just begun dialog with the two libraries so no solid details yet,
> sorry, other than that *someone* in a position of authority in each city
> decided that makerspaces were a good fit for their purpose and unused
> space.  That seems to be happening all over the US right now, I
> understand.  Print is declining and many are realizing that libraries need
> a bigger, newer vision.
>  One of our directors attended the right public presentation: a local
> library was showing off its new donated 3D printer and describing what they
> saw as their future.  Representatives of other municipalities were there
> and thankfully so was our guy.
>  In a nutshell, though, we're discussing as simple a quid pro quo
> arrangement as we can manage.  We need to cover issues around liability,
> and produce educational resources, and the libraries will handle the rest.
> We're working on equipment donations as well, and in fact have one donated
> 3D printer and another coming.
>  That said, we will still have member fees, but our goal is not to depend
> heavily on them nor allow them to get to some prohibitive point.  $50 or so
> per month, as I've seen elsewhere, is prohibitive IMO.
>  Randy
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