[hackerspaces] Hackerspaces Re:Foundation (Was Re: Abuse Of Power)

[Sean Bonner]

fucking thread fracture.


On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Randall G. Arnold <
randall.arnold at texrat.net> wrote:

> **
>
>
> > On April 13, 2013 at 2:51 PM Bryan Bishop <kanzure at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Randall G. Arnold wrote:
> > > In the case of Makerspaces there is no real product, which actually
> benefits
> > > us. There is no corporate entity, really, to which we are beholden. On
> the
> > > surface, though, that means the absence of a single guiding force that
> > > identifies purpose. Some can say that in our world O'Reilly is or
> means to
> > > be that force... but as noted, they have a financial agenda of their
> own
> >
> > Could you be more specific about how O'Reilly gets in the way? Of
> > course, the general argument that a commercial entity is biased
> > towards itself is totally valid in this case, but I think there have
> > been specific incidents with O'Reilly (or other commercial entities)
> > that are worth mentioning. Using specific examples helps us to account
> > for those cases in whatever proposals we fling around at each other.
> >
>
>  I didn't say for certain that O'Reilly gets in the way.  Again, I'm new
> to this list and was offering benefit of the doubt to a previous commenter.
>
> >
> > Besides insurance bargaining, what else would you put in a list of
> > hacker goals for a foundation?
> >
> > If I was to make up the rules on my own, then the rules or goals would
> > end up being something related to funding activities- such as finding
> > funding, raising money, franchising products or whatever, to pay for
> > and fund excellent hackers in hackerspaces working on excellent open
> > source projects throughout hackerspaces, including lesson plans,
> > circuits, schematics, biology projects, chemistry projects, or any
> > other hacker activity.
>
>  First, I'm not necessarily advocating a foundation in this case.  A
> council may very well serve the needs described by others.
>
>  For our local foundation, there are a multitude of purposes and reasons:
>
>  - financial
>  - identity
>  - civic support
>  - community resource management
>  - legal
>
>  Your own comments are also valid.  ;)
>
>  Of course one sticking point here is defining "hacker".  I'm not trying
> to quibble over semantics either-- this community is much more diverse than
> any other in which I've been involved.  There are those who would favor a
> quasi-corporate approach to governance.  There are others who would
> gleefully opt for anarchy... and myriads of flavors in between...
>
>  Randy
>
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