[hackerspaces] Abuse Of Power

Sean Bonner seanbonner at gmail.com
Sat Apr 13 20:11:50 CEST 2013

I volunteer to be involved with said organization. So long as I can still post popcorn.gif when required. 
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On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Paul Bohm <bohmps at gmail.com> wrote:

> I apologize for the way I addressed this. I just don't know how to deal
> with this.
> Can we please find some solution that doesn't involve me and Astera
> fighting either in private or public?
> I don't want to be involved in running the site, or in arbitraging power
> struggles. I'd still be glad to hang out with y'all and drink Club Mate.
> Peace
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Paul Bohm <bohmps at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ok that was harsh. Sorry
>> Johannes bringing my mother into this, plus people messaging me pushed my
>> buttons.
>> But the thing is. I'd like to hand over the domains and keys to
>> hackerspaces.org to some entity that can take care of it. Anyone want to
>> start a foundation with a defined charta?
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Paul Bohm <bohmps at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I've just received messages suggesting how I should respond to
>>> straw-man's, and how it's important.
>>> But it's simpler than that, I've given up the domain metalab.at and
>>> given it to Metalab many years ago because I knew it would be in good hands
>>> there.
>>> Despite moving to a different country and being less involved with the
>>> scene, I've held on to the domains hackerspaces.org hackerspaces.com
>>> hackerspaces.net because there were some very ugly power struggles that
>>> I didn't speak up about at the time.
>>> I'm no longer as actively involved with the hackerspaces scene and I've
>>> been wanting to hand over the reigns including domains to people who are
>>> capable of cooperation for years. This hasn't been possible, and now even
>>> doing maintenance on the site causes backstabbing.
>>> A mentor told me many years ago that if people say ugly things in private
>>> that they'd rather not hear said in public, the answer to that is to
>>> communicate in public even if it makes you look bad too. I'm sticking to
>>> that.
>>> -enki
>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Tobias Wolter <towo at koeln.ccc.de> wrote:
>>>> Paul Bohm <bohmps at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >And I remember very well that night at CCC Congress 2008, where you
>>>> >told me
>>>> >how much you enjoyed the attention you get, because you've set things
>>>> >up in
>>>> >such a way that they have to go through you to accomplish things. I
>>>> >told
>>>> >you back then that's at odds with a philosophy of participation.
>>>> Unverifiable statements of private conversations wherein you accuse
>>>> someone of being in it only for the attention - after going public with an
>>>> outcry of revoked privileges you admit to not using, stating that the
>>>> person doing that is not as "cool" as you are? Interesting.
>>>> Then we should consider that this might be an attempt to sway public
>>>> opinion because you are trying to insinuate gender-based prejudices? That's
>>>> rich.
>>>> And not very becoming in the spirit of encouraging participation.
>>>> -towo
>>>> --
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