[hackerspaces] Idea: things.hackerspaces.org now that Thingiverse is not ok anymore

James Arlen myrcurial at thinkhaus.org
Tue Sep 25 15:10:32 CEST 2012

Just throwing this out there for public consumption...

For as abrasive and trollish as you like to see yourself Mr. Joyce, you are remarkable - you should consider writing more because "the movement" (whatever it is) requires cogent conversation about that which we do not agree on. 

This isn't about the colour of the bike shed. (or even it's color)

This is about how to not let the spectrum of ideas and points of view be summarily chopped up into sides. 

We're still defining what "open hardware" really means - and part of what I'm reading here sounds like an attempt to re-draft the patent system on our own terms - a system that fosters innovation, provides sharply limited protection for investors and requires public good. 

That's kind of awesome. 

And shouldn't we be working towards more awesome?


Matt Joyce wrote:
> By the by
> I put together some thoughts on this whole shabang.
> http://www.music-piracy.com/?p=712
> In case anyone is into discussing it.
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:
>> I think he's been pretty clear on the intent.  I think the real
>> concern is the result of the intent.
>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Walter van Holst <walter at revspace.nl> wrote:
>>> On 9/23/12 10:05 PM, Matt Joyce wrote:
>>>> It's been my experience that legalese is not always clear to the
>>>> untrained eye.  It may be written in english looking words, but it's
>>>> parser is vastly different from the one we use when talking to each
>>>> other.
>>>> I'd love to see some interpretations of what the wording is intended
>>>> to do, and how it is interpreted by others inside of the legal
>>> Well, the cool part is that Bre is on the list and we do not necessarily
>>> need an exegese by a legal professional. The man himself can tell us
>>> what he meant and what he intends to achieve.
>>> Regards,
>>>  Walter
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