[hackerspaces] Help me make it happen for 'hackert0wn' on Indiegogo

[Matt Joyce]

Just because it's also worth mentioning...

price break down does not include:

power distribution / electrical anything.

sewage / toilets anything.

fire suppression ( mentioned before but worth mentioning again ).
which changes based on what the buildings are zoned for.

As raised before... cost of permits, rezoning, tax costs, etc etc.

Also a concern in NYC... HEATING.  How is that being handled?
Electric?  Gas?  If gas, that's another expense.

=/

-Matt

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:32 PM, William Saturno <wsaturno at gmail.com> wrote:
> I completely understand what you're saying about not being able to do
> everything yourself. That will definitely add to the cost
>
> Perhaps to take a Pageight headed it
>
> On Oct 3, 2012 4:01 PM, "Matt Joyce" <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to point out hackerdojo just completed a 250k fund raiser
>> just to get two of their buildings rezoned and bring their current
>> building up to code.
>>
>> That gets them pretty much nothing they didn't already have except a
>> pass from the local city government to use it for people.
>>
>> There are things hackers cannot do without gobs of money.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM, William Saturno <wsaturno at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > One great aspect of this idea is that this plan can become modular
>> > (pun intended) and be built by breaking it down into build stages.
>> > Will it be completed for the initial 1.5 investment? Doubtful. But a
>> > "stage 1" of a plan? Perhaps. Being that this thread is made up of
>> > mainly members of hackerspaces, you *know* what we can accomplish on
>> > meager or zero budgets. I also see that first hand at my own space
>> > what we have accomplished by the passion of membership.  Now, using
>> > that same hacker resourcefulness and and 'frugal"ness, I think that if
>> > this idea can reach a critical mass it may have it's own momentum to
>> > move forward on it's own. I'll be investing what I can on Indiegogo
>> > towards it. At the very very least, the challenge has been made to the
>> > status quo.
>> >
>> > Bill Saturno
>> > CT Hackerspace
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Ron Bean
>> > <makerspace at rbean.users.panix.com> wrote:
>> >> Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com> writes:
>> >>
>> >>>Containers are intended to be used INDOORS.
>> >>
>> >> Wait, what?
>> >>
>> >> I thought they were intended to he hauled around on trucks, trains, and
>> >> cargo ships.
>> >>
>> >>>They need to be covered and raised off the
>> >>>ground.
>> >>
>> >> I'd agree with that part.
>> >>
>> >> The project page looks like a bunch of different projects that should
>> >> be
>> >> pursued separately. I don't see the point of making it one huge
>> >> project.
>> >>
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