[hackerspaces] printablegun.com has it's 3d printer siezed

[Matt Joyce]

Honestly, making a fire arm with a lathe is farely easy.  It's been
done many times before "AKA zip guns".

People constructed them.  Sold them.  Killed with them.  No one has
ever put limits on a lathe.  Or a CNC which are used often in milling
gun components.

The reality is, the guy most likely to sell a gun illegally or use one
illegally doesn't have access to a machine shop.  And the off chance
some lunatic does, well shit.  Sometimes people do bad things.  it
happens.

I don't think this is nearly as big a deal as people make it out to
be.  It's like "Cyberwar".  The only reason people care is that it
sounds so magical and futuristic.  It's not.

-Matt

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Yves Quemener <quemener.yves at free.fr> wrote:
> It is pretty obvious for anyone who has given 3D printing a bit of thought
> that people would print weapons at one moment. While we knew this was
> inevitable, I hoped it to happen as late as possible. We all know what will
> happen once the first crime will be done with a 3d printed weapon : the
> legalosaurus will look out way and will try to shoot random legislation at
> a field that is, for now, relatively unencumbered.
>
> I am not even sure that I have a moral opinion on the availability of gun
> CAD files, but I have a pragmatic advice : don't do it now, the current
> state of the tech makes it useless and it will slow the whole field.
>
> I also have the feeling that the person behind printablegun.com was less
> about making a working firearm than making buzz around the project. I
> suspect that this event is exactly what was supposed to happen.
>
> On 02/10/12 10:50, Bryce Tugwell wrote:
>> For better or for worse, Printablegun.com who was/is working on creating a
>> (hand)gun printable on a 3d printer, has had its printer (which evidently
>> was leased(?)) confiscated "before they even got it out of the box" by the
>> company that made the printer (Stratasys). Evidently printablegun.com
>> <http://printablegun.com> did a kickstarter style fundraiser, raised
>> $20,000 and "leased" the printer (would love to know if they actually
>> leased it, or if this is the action of a company that is moving on a end
>> user licence agreement...) In any case they showed up at the guys house and
>> took the printer away before it was ever plugged in. (i won't insert my
>> opinion on this right away, I am interested in hearing yours!)
>>
>> Discuss?
>>
>> I am sure there are some lively opinions on this, and I am all ears, I
>> would love to hear thoughs.
>>
>>
>> Also, I am about to post a huge load of photos (well over a thousand) of
>> the Iron pour I attended and participated in this weekend to flickr, I will
>> send out a link when the upload is complete. I made a nice cast iron paella
>> pan that turned out great! I can't wait to do another casting. Interested
>> parties are welcome to join in, but in the future will need to let me know
>> well enough in advance to go over some fairly important safety information
>> in advance.
>>
>> Also, those interested in making a cast iron piece should let me know - I
>> can arrange it if far enough in advance.
>>
>>
>> FYI bronze and aluminium castings opportunities coming in the future as well.
>>
>> Bryce
>>
>>
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