[hackerspaces] printablegun.com has it's 3d printer siezed

Matt Joyce matt at nycresistor.com
Tue Oct 2 03:19:16 CEST 2012

Honestly, making a fire arm with a lathe is farely easy.  It's been
done many times before "AKA zip guns".

People constructed them.  Sold them.  Killed with them.  No one has
ever put limits on a lathe.  Or a CNC which are used often in milling
gun components.

The reality is, the guy most likely to sell a gun illegally or use one
illegally doesn't have access to a machine shop.  And the off chance
some lunatic does, well shit.  Sometimes people do bad things.  it

I don't think this is nearly as big a deal as people make it out to
be.  It's like "Cyberwar".  The only reason people care is that it
sounds so magical and futuristic.  It's not.


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Yves Quemener <quemener.yves at free.fr> wrote:
> It is pretty obvious for anyone who has given 3D printing a bit of thought
> that people would print weapons at one moment. While we knew this was
> inevitable, I hoped it to happen as late as possible. We all know what will
> happen once the first crime will be done with a 3d printed weapon : the
> legalosaurus will look out way and will try to shoot random legislation at
> a field that is, for now, relatively unencumbered.
> I am not even sure that I have a moral opinion on the availability of gun
> CAD files, but I have a pragmatic advice : don't do it now, the current
> state of the tech makes it useless and it will slow the whole field.
> I also have the feeling that the person behind printablegun.com was less
> about making a working firearm than making buzz around the project. I
> suspect that this event is exactly what was supposed to happen.
> On 02/10/12 10:50, Bryce Tugwell wrote:
>> For better or for worse, Printablegun.com who was/is working on creating a
>> (hand)gun printable on a 3d printer, has had its printer (which evidently
>> was leased(?)) confiscated "before they even got it out of the box" by the
>> company that made the printer (Stratasys). Evidently printablegun.com
>> <http://printablegun.com> did a kickstarter style fundraiser, raised
>> $20,000 and "leased" the printer (would love to know if they actually
>> leased it, or if this is the action of a company that is moving on a end
>> user licence agreement...) In any case they showed up at the guys house and
>> took the printer away before it was ever plugged in. (i won't insert my
>> opinion on this right away, I am interested in hearing yours!)
>> Discuss?
>> I am sure there are some lively opinions on this, and I am all ears, I
>> would love to hear thoughs.
>> Also, I am about to post a huge load of photos (well over a thousand) of
>> the Iron pour I attended and participated in this weekend to flickr, I will
>> send out a link when the upload is complete. I made a nice cast iron paella
>> pan that turned out great! I can't wait to do another casting. Interested
>> parties are welcome to join in, but in the future will need to let me know
>> well enough in advance to go over some fairly important safety information
>> in advance.
>> Also, those interested in making a cast iron piece should let me know - I
>> can arrange it if far enough in advance.
>> FYI bronze and aluminium castings opportunities coming in the future as well.
>> Bryce
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