[hackerspaces] SpaceFED

[Moritz Bartl]

I'm not saying you should run open as in unencrypted wifi. A wifi
network called pw_012345 serves this purpose fine without any additional
voodoo.

Also, we should be the ones educating people about this as well. Most of
us are used to not trusting their upstream, and instead tunnel using VPN
or even Tor.

I do like the idea of publicly displaying the current traffic as a nice
visualization of traffic flows, including data, to educate users, and
maybe even use unencrypted wifi on purpose.

On 28.05.2012 22:07, Don Ankney wrote:
> Remember that WPA2 is not just authZ. It also serves as layer2
> isolation. Open or WEP networks leave tenants open to untargeted layer2
> attacks (think karmetasploit).
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Moritz Bartl
> Sent: 5/28/2012 12:56 PM
> To: Hackerspaces General Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] SpaceFED
> 
> My thoughts on this?
> 
> Bullcrap.
> 
> Hackerspaces should be the front to fight for open wifi access without
> any specific authentication. I do agree it would be nice if more spaces
> used a unified passphrase, but then again different networks serve as a
> reminder that, err, yeah, you're on different networks with different
> ownership relations and (potentially) different usage policies. It might
> not be the intention of its founders (and even participants), but
> spaceFED scares me, because it screams authentication in pair with
> membership, strange access rules, etc etc
> 
> A different but related, way more interesting project for me would be a
> non-profit hackerspace VPN provider that hackerspaces (and mesh networks
> like Freifunk, FNF, Guifi etc) can tune into, especially to cope with
> local abuse (and strange country geoIP fuckups). I say this as a VPN
> provider of some sort - we run some number of Tor exits as Torservers.net.
> 
> On 28.05.2012 11:02, Mark van Cuijk wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> A couple of months back I learned about the SpaceFED project. One of the
>> goals of the project is to build a federated Wi-Fi authentication
>> network for hackerspaces. It the time, I liked the idea, but since only
>> two hackerspaces were working on it, I left it for what it was.
>>
>> When I was traveling Europe this month, I've visited a couple of
>> hackerspaces and noticed each of them has a wireless network, but
>> authentication is not consistent across them. One hackerspace had a nice
>> QR-code on the wall containing SSID and WPA key, others required some
>> manual configuration.
>>
>> Anyway, this reminded me about the SpaceFED network and it seems a
>> couple more hackerspaces are connected now. Although not published in
>> their wiki yet, I heard spaces from four different countries are
>> involved already.
>>
>> I'd like to think that the project already is successful, since it's
>> being used for months already and hackers benefit from it. However, we
>> could all take more advantage from this project if more hackerspaces
>> would participate. Therefore, I'd like to invite you to check out the
>> project wiki at https://spacefed.net/wiki/index.php/Spacenet
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mark
>>
>> PS. full disclosure: I'm not involved with the project, but I do know
>> the guys who started it
>>
>>
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