[hackerspaces] Fw: [sf-lug] A beautiful picture involving computers

[Matt Joyce]

If someone made a post like that about canonical yes.  I would.
Ubuntu... maybe.  One is an open source project the other a for profit
entity.

That being said there are cultural artifacts that would color my
views.  One such would be club mate... a brand with a rather strong
following in the hacker community.  But probably against its own
wishes.

It's a tough call.  But honestly that email STILL looks like spam.
Seriously.  It does.  100%.

-Matt

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Christian Einfeldt <einfeldt at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for saying nice things about Zareason, Matt.  They are a good
> company.  I don't work for Zareason and never have.  They have never paid me
> a dime.  With all due respect to Matt, I don't see how this thread "reeks of
> product placement".  Would he say the same thing about praise that someone
> posted for Ubuntu or Fedora?  Zareason machines only run Linux, and again, I
> don't work for Zareason and never have.
>
> My point here is that everyone needs to make a living, and I think we should
> encourage everyone who makes a living honorably with free software.  I
> praised Zareason because I think they are doing just that.  Community orgs
> like Noisebridge and SF-LUG.com are the heart and soul of free software, but
> if we don't encourage people who are making a living with free software,
> then free software won't reach as many people as possible, and Bug One will
> never get fixed.
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
>
> Let's help each other.  If someone is doing good work with free software,
> give them some props publicly.
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:
>>
>> For the record I am familiar with zareason and their donation of
>> systems to the openstack design summit which proved to be very useful.
>>  So I have no hate of the company persay... but seriously this thread
>> reeks of product placement.
>>
>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I think you mean that it was posted here possibly because of it's
>> > "commercial purpose" therefore it should not belong on this discuss
>> > list, do
>> > I understand correctly?
>> >
>> > Well sorry I was really not thinking about that at all. I have never met
>> > the
>> > people from the company but I know several really cool people from San
>> > Francisco Linux community who are very supportive of this small business
>> > scheme and how they do it.
>> >
>> > So my apologies to the ones who are inconvenient because of the email, I
>> > hope the rest will enjoy it.
>> >
>> > No offense to Matt Joyce, he got actually a point which many will make I
>> > think and he did it in a nice way which I appreciate.
>> >
>> > I really like the posts and I hope there will be more businesses like
>> > that!
>> > :-))
>> >
>> > Sincerely from Seoul,
>> >
>> > Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>> >
>> > biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org
>> >
>> >
>> > "There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Ghandi
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com>
>> > To: Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com>; Hackerspaces General
>> > Discussion List <discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org>
>> > Cc: Christian Einfeldt <einfeldt at gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:06 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Fw: [sf-lug] A beautiful picture involving
>> > computers
>> >
>> > This may be the most well written spam e-mail I have ever received.
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Frantisek Apfelbeck
>> > <algoldor at yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> I think that both the picture and the description of it by Christian
>> >> are
>> >> really nice!
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely,
>> >>
>> >> Frantisek
>> >>
>> >> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>> >> From: Christian Einfeldt <einfeldt at gmail.com>
>> >> To: sf-lug <sf-lug at linuxmafia.com>
>> >> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 3:05 AM
>> >> Subject: [sf-lug] A beautiful picture
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Beautiful thought for the day:
>> >>
>> >> I just went to the Zareason home page for no reason other than to see
>> >> what
>> >> was going on there, and I saw a beautiful picture there, one of the
>> >> most
>> >> beautiful pictures involving computers that I have seen in a long time:
>> >>
>> >> http://zareason.com/shop/home.php
>> >>
>> >> It is a shot of a child throwing a notebook computer up into the air.
>> >>  The
>> >> notebook computer seems to be hovering over the child's hands, light as
>> >> air.
>> >>  To me, the message is an emotional depiction of the joy of freedom.
>> >>  The
>> >> shot is outside, and set against the backdrop of the San Francisco Bay
>> >> Bridge and the San Francisco skyline on a beautiful blue day.  The shot
>> >> gives the impression of how freeing a light notebook computer can be.
>> >>  The
>> >> child is smiling as if it is so much fun to float the computer over her
>> >> head.
>> >>
>> >> I found this picture to be wonderful because I have long felt that we
>> >> in
>> >> the
>> >> free software world need to get better about communicating the joy,
>> >> love,
>> >> and happiness that is represented by free software.  Free software to
>> >> me
>> >> represents an incredible act of giving, and so I was happy to see a
>> >> commercial provider like Zareason engage in this kind of outreach.
>> >>
>> >> Imagine what a difference it would make if people thought of their
>> >> computers
>> >> as an expression of community, rather than as something that they have
>> >> to
>> >> put up with.  Imagine how nice it would be if there were as much choice
>> >> in
>> >> notebook and desktop computing as there is in phones.
>> >>
>> >> I am a huge fan of Zareason as a company because of their focus on
>> >> reaching
>> >> non-geeky users, and this picture seemed to capture that for me.  So I
>> >> just
>> >> had to share it, in case others found it as beautiful as I did.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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