[hackerspaces] Do-ocracy at 140 members?

James Arthur iam at jamesarthur.info
Thu Jul 12 17:38:27 CEST 2012


We're going to experiment with a meritocracy.  I'll post more once we
launch the alpha.

James Arthur
www.cemmi.org

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Adam <dreamingforward at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Tim Saylor <tim.saylor at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> At Pumping Station: One we've used do-ocracy<http://wiki.pumpingstationone.org/Do-ocracy>to get things done since day one.  However, at 140 members I wonder if the
>> system breaks down.  It's not practical to "ask around" and see if anyone
>> minds if the bikeshed is painted pink.  Someone's going to oppose almost
>> anything you want to do, and more people want to ask questions and bounce
>> the issue between themselves with not much productive output.  And if we're
>> talking about an action that's not reversible, like getting rid of "useless
>> junk" that someone else thinks is very valuable, it can really blow up.
>>
>> Interesting you bring this up.  This was my issue with the Occupy
> Movement.  They wanted pure democracy without representation (republic).
>  But it just doesn't scale.  Eventually you'll either need or want single
> individuals making decisions on behalf of the group.  The issue then is
> deciding who.
>
> Does anyone else have experience using do-ocracy at a large scale, and how
>> has it worked out for you?
>>
>> I can say that it mostly failed at the Santa Fe Complex.  Mostly things
> got done and fueled by influxes of resources, not by self-emergent
> properties of groups.   The hackerspace model needs a network tools for
> establishing people, projects, and "tags".  This is what we were working on
> at sf_x until we lost our building, and then funding.... :(
>
> The model is still sound so talk to me if there's any VPython coders that
> want to make it happen.
>
> Mark
> pangaia.sf.net
>
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