[hackerspaces] will the fruits of our labors be used for good or for evil?

Al Jigen Billings albill at openbuddha.com
Wed Nov 30 07:20:46 CET 2011

Jigsaw Renaissance, which Willow helped found, is one of the lists I'm 
on that has had an active discussion of the DoD funding. I don't know if 
I'd say they are pimping it but it is definitely being discussed (on 
more than one side) by members.


On 11/29/11 10:16 PM, Jacob Rosenthal wrote:
> Willow (and separately Space Fed?) seem to be pimping it as well
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Al Jigen Billings 
> <albill at openbuddha.com <mailto:albill at openbuddha.com>> wrote:
>     On 11/29/11 10:10 PM, Justis Peters wrote:
>         On 11/30/2011 12:44 AM, Al Jigen Billings wrote:
>             I'm also on the e-mail lists for a number of other
>             hackerspaces and this is a debate, on small scale, that
>             many of them are having on their own. The DoD money is
>             being discussed quite a bit. So far, I think everyone has
>             made pretty much the same observations that I've made here
>             and decided it was money best left on the table. Maybe you
>             and your space feel different but I know of no one who has
>             actually applied for the DoD money.
>         This finally makes more sense. Prior to this comment, I did
>         not understand where you got the idea that any hackerspace was
>         considering taking money from the DoD. Nobody on this list had
>         suggested it.
>         Our space has not been approached by the DoD or DARPA and I
>         doubt that we would take money from them. All our funding thus
>         far has been from individuals donations and membership dues.
>         We enjoy the autonomy that is afforded to us by that model.
>      As far as I know, no one has been approached personally. That
>     said, the DoD has put it out there. It has been blogged and
>     tweeted about (I recall something in one of the Wired blogs,
>     something on Adafruit's blog, and similar) so people are aware of
>     it and discussing it.
>     Al

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